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Re: Brad Miller [merged]
« Reply #510 on: June 17, 2012, 08:01:40 PM »
read the last few pages of this thread.

i agree with those who think miller is a step backwards. he surely wont be on the list come seasons end.have always thought we still need to get games into kids weather they have earnt them or not.  fast vtracking kids is actually the thing that has made us mnore competetive and all of a sudden we want to stop doing it. still to many hacks on the list to stop doing it.

so what options did we have and do we have.
for the gws game i would have played maric out of a fp for 80% of the game. would have given graham a run in the ruck for 80% of the game.
with ivan and riewoldt both playing forward the option would have been to give a kid a game against kids. elton or post should have played.post would have given us the flexability to cover the oppositions extra tall forwards if need be.
 
what do we do if ivan gets hurt. we cant even give another ruckman a game while hes there and being run into the ground, if ivan goes down we just throw that ruckman in the deep end without having played a game all yr. ::)
we had an opportunity to develop and have a look at other players just by tweaking things  a bit and we failed to do so.

me  i think connors earned another game. id really like to see o'hanlon get a full game and edwards has had another good game as a small forward. those are your three medium small forwards for next week.
personally id drop both king and nahas who both did little again and again very much looked like vfl players.. i have to say if miller is not the future these two arent either.

people go crook about post but i have to say as a backman hes done just as much as griffiths if not more when he has played, yet so few want to give him a decent run at it.

after the break we get grimes back we need to either play griffiths and rance with him or play post and rance with him and send griffiths to ff.when astbury gets match fit i would play him as a hit up chf.
to me the tall options and all the forward options are.

b/  morris - rance - grimes/moore.
hb/ dea - griffiths/post/astbury -  newman/batchelor/ whos out of touch in a big way.
c/ deledio - tuck - grigg
hf/ o'hanlon - griffiths/post/astbury/elton - connors.
f/ edwards/king/nahas/a maric - riewoldt/griffiths - vickery/derickx/ i maric
r/ maric/graham - cotchin - foley.
int/ ellis - houli - conca - jackson/arnot.

if every one was fit and in form, my side would go.

b/ morris - rance - moore only if fit and hes regained his pace and form.or if we need balance a small in newman or houli.
hb/ grimes - post/griffiths - batchelor/newman
c/ deledio - martin - grigg
hf/  o'hanlon - astbury - connors/maric
f/  edwards - riewoldt - griffiths/vickery/derickx
r/ maric - cotchin - foley
int/ tuck - ellis - conca - helbig/arnot.
emg houli vickery jackson nahas king.

young players like vickery havibg had numerous opportunity would now have to earn a game and older players who arent a part of the future will be slowly phased out like jackson nahs, king miller only to get a game if injury happens.

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Re: Brad Miller [merged]
« Reply #511 on: June 17, 2012, 08:12:50 PM »
And Houli doesn't get a game
Oh dear

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Re: Brad Miller [merged]
« Reply #512 on: June 17, 2012, 08:25:55 PM »
Maric? Surely a miss print you cant be talking about the one from Melbourne.

He is rubbish.

Houli comes in also. Has done more than enough

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Re: Brad Miller [merged]
« Reply #513 on: June 17, 2012, 08:28:08 PM »
And Houli doesn't get a game
Oh dear
please tell where would you like to see him played.

hes no mid thats for sure.

hes played some decent footy of hb and done nothing as a forward.
for me as a back all of morris, dea, batchelor, newman, ellis, conca, deledio, are better backline options. where do you fit him in. three plays as mids still leaves 4 in front of him.

thru the midfield  and i have to say he will never be a good mid just lacks  in a few key areas, all of conca, cotchin, deledio, ellis, foley, grigg, martin, tuck, are better options and i reckon when developed both helbig and arnot to be better options. still not enough and maybe as an outside mid where hes got some time and space he may be an option.

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Re: Brad Miller [merged]
« Reply #514 on: June 17, 2012, 08:30:35 PM »
Maric? Surely a miss print you cant be talking about the one from Melbourne.

He is rubbish.

Houli comes in also. Has done more than enough

Love your emergency players the most. 100% spot on
you could be right about maric but i for one would sure as hell like to find out one way or the other and give him a decent go. dont believe in this b/s in for a week struggle  out for 5. sheesh if we applied that to all our developing players they just wouldnt develop.

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Re: Brad Miller [merged]
« Reply #515 on: June 17, 2012, 08:40:58 PM »
Houli has played every game possible since his arrival
His use of ball is excellent
In a team that were the biggest butchers of turning the ball over
I give up discussing football on here
Houli a emergency is a joke

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Re: Brad Miller [merged]
« Reply #516 on: June 17, 2012, 08:42:00 PM »
Maric? Surely a miss print you cant be talking about the one from Melbourne.

He is rubbish.

Houli comes in also. Has done more than enough

Love your emergency players the most. 100% spot on
you could be right about maric but i for one would sure as hell like to find out one way or the other and give him a decent go. dont believe in this b/s in for a week struggle  out for 5. sheesh if we applied that to all our developing players they just wouldnt develop.

Well they leave Vickery in for months on end

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Re: Brad Miller [merged]
« Reply #517 on: June 17, 2012, 08:47:35 PM »
Quote from: Mr Tigra link=topic=12013.msg307377#msg307377

I suggest you both watch the replay again and the replay of the game against the bombers and ask yourself, "what point is there that he is in the team?" when he can't kick, read the play, gets in jacks way, fails to block, fails to capitalize on jacks good work, fumbles, can't kick beyond 40m, takes his defender straight to Jack, has no respect by any opposition defender. Etc etc etc.

Firstly, I thought I was commenting on the game against GWS not a game from weeks ago so I don't need to watch THAT replay. It is not relevant to this discussion about this game = GWS

It seems to me it wouldn't matter what he does facts are you have made up your mind and that's your choice but please don't keep harping back to game that is history at least deal with the most recent game
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Re: Brad Miller [merged]
« Reply #518 on: June 17, 2012, 09:06:33 PM »
Maric? Surely a miss print you cant be talking about the one from Melbourne.

He is rubbish.

Houli comes in also. Has done more than enough

Love your emergency players the most. 100% spot on
you could be right about maric but i for one would sure as hell like to find out one way or the other and give him a decent go. dont believe in this b/s in for a week struggle  out for 5. sheesh if we applied that to all our developing players they just wouldnt develop.

Newy wont be in our starting 22 come 2014. I believe this is his last year playing all 22 games. Next year Cotch captain

Houli is that replacement in the defensive half. Your kidding Houli doesnt deserve a spot right?

I agree for 100% re: needing to play another ruckman not Vickery.

This is the first full season Maric has played and if he gets injured we are screwed.

Would play Gus in the Adelaide game.

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Re: Brad Miller [merged]
« Reply #519 on: June 17, 2012, 09:28:06 PM »

Would play Gus in the Adelaide game.

Just when I praise Daniel he come out with this poo.

Gus will be gone at year's end, A Browne will be the backup for Maric/Vickery.

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Re: Brad Miller [merged]
« Reply #520 on: June 17, 2012, 09:32:19 PM »

Would play Gus in the Adelaide game.

Just when I praise Daniel he come out with this poo.

Gus will be gone at year's end, A Browne will be the backup for Maric/Vickery.

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im looking at the bigger picture. If we make finals Ivan will be spent. Gone

He has never played a full season so what options do we have.

Vickery, not on this years form.

Adelaide are going to go in tall and who do we have apart from Ivan. Miller wont play

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Re: Brad Miller [merged]
« Reply #521 on: June 17, 2012, 09:41:29 PM »
Browne and Gus.

How can a professional club see either as future ruck?

Indicative of the times past......?

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Re: Brad Miller [merged]
« Reply #522 on: June 17, 2012, 09:44:41 PM »


Browne is young and was BOG for Coburg this week.

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Re: Brad Miller [merged]
« Reply #523 on: June 17, 2012, 09:46:33 PM »
something,i guess.......

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Re: Brad Miller [merged]
« Reply #524 on: June 17, 2012, 10:46:42 PM »
Browne and Gus.

How can a professional club see either as future ruck?

Indicative of the times past......?
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