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The AFL site is ranking the No.1 picks over the years from worst to best. Richard Lounder is named the worst.


24. Richard Lounder
Drafted: 1987
Recruited from: Central Districts (SANFL)
Club: Richmond
Games: 4

Career achievements
The Tigers had high hopes when they drafted man-mountain Richard Lounder with the first pick in what was just the second-ever national draft in 1987. But after a promising start to his VFL career, Lounder would play just three more matches to finish with a career total of four.

From Central Districts in South Australia, the ruckman stood an imposing 203cm and weighed 116kg. On debut against North Melbourne at the MCG, he spent much of his time forward and the Roos struggled to combat his sheer size. Lounder booted four goals and looked a player, but as he worked 40-hour weeks and struggled with homesickness, he wasn't able to produce his best.

Lounder returned to South Australia after just two seasons in Melbourne, and slowly drifted out of football.


23. Stephen Hooper (Geelong, 1990 Draft, 21 Games)
22. Jack Watts (Melbourne, 2008 Draft, 18* Games)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/104947/default.aspx
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Re: Richard Lounder worst No.1 draft pick (AFL site)
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2010, 07:40:43 AM »
You would think the last three to five would be excluded.

Bit harsh on a KPF like Watts to be judged already

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Re: Richard Lounder worst No.1 draft pick (AFL site)
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2010, 08:11:32 AM »
How long did Lounder get?
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Re: Richard Lounder worst No.1 draft pick (AFL site)
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2010, 11:02:08 AM »
Jack Watts hasn't even played out 3 seasons - bit harsh in my mind. Should wait at least a couple more seasons until the footy world decide if he will every live up to his No 1 ranking. He's a lucky boy that Nick Nat hasn't come on as quickly as he appeared he would when he burst ont the scene or Melbourne would have  another Tambling on there hands.  :P

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Re: Richard Lounder worst No.1 draft pick (AFL site)
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2010, 01:36:29 PM »
Looks like a real ladies man too  :lol
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Re: Richard Lounder worst No.1 draft pick (AFL site)
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2010, 06:03:50 PM »
Is Tambling on the list? :lol :lol

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Banik 5th worst No.1 pick (AFL site)
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2010, 10:45:58 PM »
Banik made the 5th worst.....

20. Anthony Banik
Drafted: 1989
Recruited from: Won Wron Woodside (VCFL)
Club: Richmond
Games: 49

Career achievements
Banik was just 17 years old when he ran onto Princes Park for Richmond in round three of the 1990 season.

Big things were expected of the Won Wron youngster, who had been an outstanding junior and Tiger officials believed would be a 10-year player. But despite a promising debut season, his AFL career ended after five years at Punt Road for 49 senior matches. The former No.1 draft pick was still just 21 years old when delisted.

Injury and illness did hamper his progress, but it's fair to say the half back flanker never really set the world on fire.


21. Tom Scully (Melbourne)
19. Alex McDonald (Hawthorn/Collingwood)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/104996/default.aspx

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Re: Richard Lounder worst No.1 draft pick / Banik 5th worst (AFL site)
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2010, 01:11:34 AM »
This is not the 1st time that this Ben Broad has written articles that are so far of the mark.

Min giosh, Scully as a poor draft choice ..... what a f'n peanut !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead

Would have Scully at RFC in a heartbeat for the next 25 years of mature age MFC rejects.

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Re: Richard Lounder worst No.1 draft pick / Banik 5th worst (AFL site)
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2010, 12:32:32 PM »
Illness destroyed Banik. Was a talented footballer

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Re: Richard Lounder worst No.1 draft pick / Banik 5th worst (AFL site)
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2010, 01:27:15 PM »
Way to harsh on Scully and Watts. Scully showed some great signs this year. My only criticism of Watts in a future out-look view is he might be a confidence player. But besides that give him at least another couple of seasons and pre-seasons to build his body up.

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Re: Richard Lounder worst No.1 draft pick / Banik 5th worst (AFL site)
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2010, 03:15:37 PM »
Alex McDonald at no.19 ?  I'd have him at no.2 just behind Lounder. He was pox
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Re: Richard Lounder worst No.1 draft pick (AFL site)
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2010, 03:45:32 PM »
How long did Lounder get?
I only remember Lounder being at Richmond for the one year (1989).

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/R/Richard_Lounder.html

Lounder is most famous for kicking 4 goals on debut while leaning against the goalpost  ;D.


We did get Wayne Campbell out of that 1989 draft but that's about it. We were broke (pre-SOS) so we could only afford country kids from Victoria because they came to the club cheap.

#   Player             Recruited By            Recruited From
1 Anthony Banik     Richmond               Won Wron Woodside
2 Matthew Croft    Footscray               Mildura (VCFL)
3 Jody Arnol         St Kilda                  North Hobart
4 Peter Matera     West Coast             South Fremantle
5 Brad Rowe         Brisbane                East Fremantle
6 Mark Brayshaw   Nth Melbourne        Claremont
7 Stephan Edgar    Carlton                East Fremantle
8 Brad Tunbridge    Sydney               East Fremantle
9 Dale Kickett        Fitzroy                Claremont
10 Daryl Groves     Collingwood          Maryborough (VCFL)
11 Darren Smith       Essendon           Port Adelaide
12 Gavin Wanganeen Essendon          Port Adelaide
13 Alistair Scott       Richmond           Inverloch-Kongwach
14 Ben Allan            Hawthorn           Claremont
15 Nathan Bower      Richmond           Mildura (VCFL)
16 Jason Shields       Footscray          Moe
17 Gilbert McAdam    St Kilda             Central District
18 Robert Wren        Richmond           Assumption College
19 Ashley Green       Essendon          Warragul (VCFL)
20 Brett Hawkey      Nth Melbourne    Nathalia (VCFL)
21 Peter Doyle         Carlton             Union (VCFL)
22 Mathew Hanrahan Collingwood       Lake Bolac (VCFL)
23 Roger Delaney      Fitzroy             Port Adelaide
24 Mathew Styles     Collingwood        Glenorchy
25 Paul Rouvray        Melbourne         Glenelg
26 Alister Carr          Essendon         Sth Bendigo (VCFL)
27 Joel Saunders       Fitzroy            Bairnsdale
28 Jason Gibson       Hawthorn          Deloraine
29 Wayne Campbell  Richmond          Golden Square (VCFL)
30 Glenn Coleman     Footscray         Sydney
31 Darel Hart           St Kilda            Nth Adelaide
32 Shaun Slater       Richmond         St Arnaud (VCFL)
33 Shaun Hart         Brisbane           Shepparton Utd (VCFL)
34 Andrew Venner    Nth Melbourne    Ballarat YCW (VCFL)
35 Chris Bond          Carlton             Nth Hobart
36 Rohan Smith        Sydney            Port Adelaide
37 Shayne Stevenson Fitzroy            Sandy Bay
38 Gavin Rose            Collingwood     East Perth
39 Peter Cransberg     Essendon        East Perth
40 Travis St Clair        Essendon       Sth Bendigo (VCFL)
41 Chris Waterworth    Richmond       Sandy Bay
42 Matthew Robran     Hawthorn        Norwood
43 Chris Guerts           Brisbane         Warragul
44 Jonathon Solomon   Brisbane         Seymour (VCFL)
45 Sasha Dyson-Holland Fitzroy        Leongatha (VCFL)
46 Shane Radbone        Essendon       Sturt
47 Richard Gerke          Richmond      Woodville
48 Dennis Rapacholi      Footscray    West Perth
49 Greg Jones             St Kilda       Swan Districts
50 Dean Irving            West Coast  Sth Fremantle
51 Joe Wilson             Brisbane      Wangarrata (VCFL)
52 Rod Jameson          North Melbourne Glenelg
53 Derek Coghlan        Carlton           Lemnos (VCFL)
54 Steven Bozicevic    Sydney         Myrtleford (VCFL)
55 Grant Coffee          Fitzroy         Central District
56 Shayne Bennett     Collingwood    North Adelaide
57 Tim Moreland         Melbourne      Shepparton (VCFL)
58 Jason Dullard         Essendon       Bairnsdale (VCFL)
59 Daniel Frawley       Geelong         Wangaratta
60 Chris Sharp           Hawthorn       East Ballarat (VCFL)
61 Simon Eastaugh     Richmond        Shepparton (VCFL)
62 John Brunner          Footscray       Yarrawonga (VCFL)
63 Wayne Thornborrow St Kilda          Glenelg
64 Tony Evans            West Coast     Claremont
65 Alan Schwartz        Essendon        West Torrens
66 Shannon Bergmann North Melbourne Swan Hill (VCFL)
67 Ben Judd              Carlton              Sturt
68 Scott Tomlinson    Sydney              Shepparton Utd (VCFL)
69 Jamie Elliott          Fitzroy               Maryborough (VCFL)
70 Paul Williams         Collingwood         North Hobart
71 Glenn Wilkins        Melbourne           Nth Ballarat
72 Glenn Crawford     Essendon            Barooga
73 Tim Birthisel          Geelong            Ingelwood (VCFL)
74 Alistair Burke        Hawthorn             Tatura (VCFL)
75 Stephen Pearce    Richmond            Echuca (VCFL)
76 Shayne Ward        Footscray           Darley (VCFL)
77 Christian Lister      St Kilda            Golden Square (VCFL)
78 Steven Schwerdt  West Coast        Central District
79 David Brown         Brisbane             Port Adelaide
80 Damian Murray      North Melbourne  West Adelaide
81 Sam Gross           Carlton               Boort (VCFL)
82 Troy Lehmann       Collingwood        Nth Adelaide
83 Mark Robinson      Fitzroy               Glenorchy
84 Matthew Kelly      Collingwood         Norwood
85 Anthony Tohill      Melbourne           Ireland
86 Gerrard Harrington Essendon          Southport (Qld)
87 Ashley Coutts       Geelong            Kaniva (VCFL)
88 Tim Leng             Hawthorn           Mildura (VCFL)
89 Jason Smith         Richmond          Lockington (VCFL)
90 Ben Cross            Footscray       East Warrnambool (VCFL)
91 Grant Lawrie        St Kilda             Box Hill
92 Brett Heady        West Coast        Subiaco
93 Tony Paynter      Brisbane           Pakenham (VCFL)
94 John Bingham      Nth Melbourne   Old Haileybury
95 Jeremy Smith      Carlton             Sandy Bay
96 Gary Stevens      Sydney           Waaia (VCFL)
97 Paul McConville    Fitzroy            Golden Square
98 Kym Russell         Collingwood        Sturt
99 Nick Tsiotanis      Essendon        Bulleen-Templestowe
100 David Pittman    Essendon          Norwood
101 Richard Harrison Geelong          South Adelaide
102 Dion Sheehan    Hawthorn       Mansfield (VCFL)
103 Brett Chalmers  Richmond        Port Adelaide
104 Tony Trigg       Footscray       Bungaree
105 Stuart Annand  St Kilda          Redan (VCFL)
106 Ernie Hug         Collingwood      Sale (VCFL)
107 Sean Valenta    Brisbane         Morningside
108 Eric Lissendon   Nth Melbourne Neerim-Neerim South
109 Colin Corkery    Carlton             Ireland
110 Craig Budarick   Sydney           Glenelg
111 David Noble       Fitzroy          North Hobart
112 Ashley McIntosh  West Coast   Claremont
113 Shane Crothers     Geelong       Grovedale (VCFL)
114 Jason Walscgott    Essendon     West Gambier
115 Colum McManamon Geelong        Ireland
116 Brendan Bicknall     Hawthorn     Shepparton (VCFL)
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Re: Richard Lounder worst No.1 draft pick (AFL site)
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2010, 03:57:30 PM »
How long did Lounder get?
I only remember Lounder being at Richmond for the one year (1989).

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/R/Richard_Lounder.html

Lounder is most famous for kicking 4 goals on debut while leaning against the goalpost  ;D.


We did get Wayne Campbell out of that 1989 draft but that's about it. We were broke (pre-SOS) so we could only afford country kids from Victoria because they came to the club cheap.

#   Player             Recruited By            Recruited From
1 Anthony Banik     Richmond               Won Wron Woodside
2 Matthew Croft    Footscray               Mildura (VCFL)
3 Jody Arnol         St Kilda                  North Hobart
4 Peter Matera     West Coast             South Fremantle
5 Brad Rowe         Brisbane                East Fremantle
6 Mark Brayshaw   Nth Melbourne        Claremont
7 Stephan Edgar    Carlton                East Fremantle
8 Brad Tunbridge    Sydney               East Fremantle
9 Dale Kickett        Fitzroy                Claremont
10 Daryl Groves     Collingwood          Maryborough (VCFL)
11 Darren Smith       Essendon           Port Adelaide
12 Gavin Wanganeen Essendon          Port Adelaide
13 Alistair Scott       Richmond           Inverloch-Kongwach
14 Ben Allan            Hawthorn           Claremont
15 Nathan Bower      Richmond           Mildura (VCFL)
16 Jason Shields       Footscray          Moe
17 Gilbert McAdam    St Kilda             Central District
18 Robert Wren        Richmond           Assumption College
19 Ashley Green       Essendon          Warragul (VCFL)
20 Brett Hawkey      Nth Melbourne    Nathalia (VCFL)
21 Peter Doyle         Carlton             Union (VCFL)
22 Mathew Hanrahan Collingwood       Lake Bolac (VCFL)
23 Roger Delaney      Fitzroy             Port Adelaide
24 Mathew Styles     Collingwood        Glenorchy
25 Paul Rouvray        Melbourne         Glenelg
26 Alister Carr          Essendon         Sth Bendigo (VCFL)
27 Joel Saunders       Fitzroy            Bairnsdale
28 Jason Gibson       Hawthorn          Deloraine
29 Wayne Campbell  Richmond          Golden Square (VCFL)
30 Glenn Coleman     Footscray         Sydney
31 Darel Hart           St Kilda            Nth Adelaide
32 Shaun Slater       Richmond         St Arnaud (VCFL)
33 Shaun Hart         Brisbane           Shepparton Utd (VCFL)
34 Andrew Venner    Nth Melbourne    Ballarat YCW (VCFL)
35 Chris Bond          Carlton             Nth Hobart
36 Rohan Smith        Sydney            Port Adelaide
37 Shayne Stevenson Fitzroy            Sandy Bay
38 Gavin Rose            Collingwood     East Perth
39 Peter Cransberg     Essendon        East Perth
40 Travis St Clair        Essendon       Sth Bendigo (VCFL)
41 Chris Waterworth    Richmond       Sandy Bay
42 Matthew Robran     Hawthorn        Norwood
43 Chris Guerts           Brisbane         Warragul
44 Jonathon Solomon   Brisbane         Seymour (VCFL)
45 Sasha Dyson-Holland Fitzroy        Leongatha (VCFL)
46 Shane Radbone        Essendon       Sturt
47 Richard Gerke          Richmond      Woodville
48 Dennis Rapacholi      Footscray    West Perth
49 Greg Jones             St Kilda       Swan Districts
50 Dean Irving            West Coast  Sth Fremantle
51 Joe Wilson             Brisbane      Wangarrata (VCFL)
52 Rod Jameson          North Melbourne Glenelg
53 Derek Coghlan        Carlton           Lemnos (VCFL)
54 Steven Bozicevic    Sydney         Myrtleford (VCFL)
55 Grant Coffee          Fitzroy         Central District
56 Shayne Bennett     Collingwood    North Adelaide
57 Tim Moreland         Melbourne      Shepparton (VCFL)
58 Jason Dullard         Essendon       Bairnsdale (VCFL)
59 Daniel Frawley       Geelong         Wangaratta
60 Chris Sharp           Hawthorn       East Ballarat (VCFL)
61 Simon Eastaugh     Richmond        Shepparton (VCFL)
62 John Brunner          Footscray       Yarrawonga (VCFL)
63 Wayne Thornborrow St Kilda          Glenelg
64 Tony Evans            West Coast     Claremont
65 Alan Schwartz        Essendon        West Torrens
66 Shannon Bergmann North Melbourne Swan Hill (VCFL)
67 Ben Judd              Carlton              Sturt
68 Scott Tomlinson    Sydney              Shepparton Utd (VCFL)
69 Jamie Elliott          Fitzroy               Maryborough (VCFL)
70 Paul Williams         Collingwood         North Hobart
71 Glenn Wilkins        Melbourne           Nth Ballarat
72 Glenn Crawford     Essendon            Barooga
73 Tim Birthisel          Geelong            Ingelwood (VCFL)
74 Alistair Burke        Hawthorn             Tatura (VCFL)
75 Stephen Pearce    Richmond            Echuca (VCFL)
76 Shayne Ward        Footscray           Darley (VCFL)
77 Christian Lister      St Kilda            Golden Square (VCFL)
78 Steven Schwerdt  West Coast        Central District
79 David Brown         Brisbane             Port Adelaide
80 Damian Murray      North Melbourne  West Adelaide
81 Sam Gross           Carlton               Boort (VCFL)
82 Troy Lehmann       Collingwood        Nth Adelaide
83 Mark Robinson      Fitzroy               Glenorchy
84 Matthew Kelly      Collingwood         Norwood
85 Anthony Tohill      Melbourne           Ireland
86 Gerrard Harrington Essendon          Southport (Qld)
87 Ashley Coutts       Geelong            Kaniva (VCFL)
88 Tim Leng             Hawthorn           Mildura (VCFL)
89 Jason Smith         Richmond          Lockington (VCFL)
90 Ben Cross            Footscray       East Warrnambool (VCFL)
91 Grant Lawrie        St Kilda             Box Hill
92 Brett Heady        West Coast        Subiaco
93 Tony Paynter      Brisbane           Pakenham (VCFL)
94 John Bingham      Nth Melbourne   Old Haileybury
95 Jeremy Smith      Carlton             Sandy Bay
96 Gary Stevens      Sydney           Waaia (VCFL)
97 Paul McConville    Fitzroy            Golden Square
98 Kym Russell         Collingwood        Sturt
99 Nick Tsiotanis      Essendon        Bulleen-Templestowe
100 David Pittman    Essendon          Norwood
101 Richard Harrison Geelong          South Adelaide
102 Dion Sheehan    Hawthorn       Mansfield (VCFL)
103 Brett Chalmers  Richmond        Port Adelaide
104 Tony Trigg       Footscray       Bungaree
105 Stuart Annand  St Kilda          Redan (VCFL)
106 Ernie Hug         Collingwood      Sale (VCFL)
107 Sean Valenta    Brisbane         Morningside
108 Eric Lissendon   Nth Melbourne Neerim-Neerim South
109 Colin Corkery    Carlton             Ireland
110 Craig Budarick   Sydney           Glenelg
111 David Noble       Fitzroy          North Hobart
112 Ashley McIntosh  West Coast   Claremont
113 Shane Crothers     Geelong       Grovedale (VCFL)
114 Jason Walscgott    Essendon     West Gambier
115 Colum McManamon Geelong        Ireland
116 Brendan Bicknall     Hawthorn     Shepparton (VCFL)

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Re: Richard Lounder worst No.1 draft pick / Banik 5th worst (AFL site)
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2010, 04:34:46 PM »
Yep , got done for draft tampering I think. He was crap anyhow lol
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Re: Richard Lounder worst No.1 draft pick / Banik 5th worst (AFL site)
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2010, 12:10:44 AM »
Weat Coast did so well in that 1989 draft.....so many premiership players picked deep into the draft.
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