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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #255 on: June 21, 2011, 02:08:33 AM »
Only Abbott could say something as stupid as this:

But Mr Abbott also told 3AW today that if he was successful in forcing a plebiscite and the result found the people wanted a carbon tax, he would not accept it.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/tony-abbotts-bid-to-force-carbon-tax-vote/story-e6frf7jo-1226078110327


He demands a plebiscite yet he will only accept the result if everyone votes the way sooky Phoney Tony wants ::).
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« Reply #256 on: June 21, 2011, 07:05:44 AM »
Only Abbott could say something as stupid as this:

But Mr Abbott also told 3AW today that if he was successful in forcing a plebiscite and the result found the people wanted a carbon tax, he would not accept it.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/tony-abbotts-bid-to-force-carbon-tax-vote/story-e6frf7jo-1226078110327


He demands a plebiscite yet he will only accept the result if everyone votes the way sooky Phoney Tony wants ::).

So financially responsible Tony wants to spend a $70 million of taxpayers money on a non binding plebiscite because it will give the people a say.

He also reckons that the only way the independants can truly show they are independant is to vote in favour of his said plebiscite ::)

But then in the next breath admits he wont accept the will of the people if they people say "YEAH"  

Good one Tony - at least we know what you stand for  ;D
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« Reply #257 on: June 21, 2011, 07:21:49 AM »
Only Abbott could say something as stupid as this:

But Mr Abbott also told 3AW today that if he was successful in forcing a plebiscite and the result found the people wanted a carbon tax, he would not accept it.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/tony-abbotts-bid-to-force-carbon-tax-vote/story-e6frf7jo-1226078110327


He demands a plebiscite yet he will only accept the result if everyone votes the way sooky Phoney Tony wants ::).

Heard this as well. What a goose of the highest order.
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« Reply #258 on: June 21, 2011, 07:24:00 AM »
Will there be the same hue and cry from electricity customers to the same level as the carbon tax after IPART has just approved an 18 per cent increase?
That's the thing isn't it FNM. Our electricity bills have and are already going through the roof without any carbon pricing scheme and what's more when you try to use less to save money the electricity companies then just whack up the "service" charges to keep increasing their profits.
Well, as resources diminish, prices will rise anyway on everything.  So you make it tougher for companies by imposing a tax that will encourage them to look for cleaner alternatives that may be expensive to operate now, but down the line will lead to less damage on the planet for our kids in the future.
LMAO@anybody who doesn't think prices will rise with our without a carbon tax. That IPART decision is a nice slug on consumers, where's the outcry?

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #259 on: June 21, 2011, 11:29:40 AM »
the carbon tax and its climate change origins are nothing more than disgraceful scams. Its a scam and everyone knows it, its a scam because Kevvie boy and the good old Jules who wouldnt even know if her behind was on fire wasted billions on dodgy chinese insulation and school facilities that turned out to be portables lol. they wasted billions and have a huge hole in their budget revenues so we will have to pay for climate change which infact doesnt exist. give us a break! Its a scam. Even the Nigerians would be proud!

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« Reply #260 on: June 21, 2011, 11:52:30 AM »
I think most people know its a stunt and nothing more.
Bring on a general election I say though.

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« Reply #261 on: June 21, 2011, 02:20:19 PM »
the carbon tax and its climate change origins are nothing more than disgraceful scams. Its a scam and everyone knows it, its a scam because Kevvie boy and the good old Jules who wouldnt even know if her behind was on fire wasted billions on dodgy chinese insulation and school facilities that turned out to be portables lol. they wasted billions and have a huge hole in their budget revenues so we will have to pay for climate change which infact doesnt exist. give us a break! Its a scam. Even the Nigerians would be proud!

Was it (Climate change etc) a scam when Tony was all in favour of an ETS before he became leader? You know the time when he knifed Turnball in the back and won the leadership by a solitary vote  ;D

Or is only a 'scam" when it is discussed by the current govt?

I think it is important that people clarify  ;D
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« Reply #262 on: June 21, 2011, 02:56:29 PM »
Its a scam because its been put up as some sort of global danger which is bulldust - socialist governments around the world and others with there own business agendas are running this scam and its a disgrace IMHO. As for Abbott - he did what he had to do to get Turnball out. Vote 1 Tone  ;D

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« Reply #263 on: June 21, 2011, 03:48:12 PM »
Its a scam because its been put up as some sort of global danger which is bulldust - socialist governments around the world and others with there own business agendas are running this scam and its a disgrace IMHO. As for Abbott - he did what he had to do to get Turnball out. Vote 1 Tone  ;D

So you are admitting that Tone is a scammer too then?

Because he believes Climate Change exists but changes his mind on how to fight it  ;D
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« Reply #264 on: June 21, 2011, 05:17:33 PM »
 :lol
just gotta love the "grumpy old men" rants
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« Reply #265 on: June 21, 2011, 08:32:50 PM »
Its a scam because its been put up as some sort of global danger which is bulldust - socialist governments around the world and others with there own business agendas are running this scam and its a disgrace IMHO. As for Abbott - he did what he had to do to get Turnball out. Vote 1 Tone  ;D

So you are admitting that Tone is a scammer too then?

Because he believes Climate Change exists but changes his mind on how to fight it  ;D

No Abbott isnt a scammer. He just did what he had to do to get the leadership of his party. The ALP on the otherhand are scamming the entire Australian population. Even Labor Members know it - theyre leaving in droves.  .











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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #266 on: June 21, 2011, 09:21:16 PM »
Its a scam because its been put up as some sort of global danger which is bulldust - socialist governments around the world and others with there own business agendas are running this scam and its a disgrace IMHO. As for Abbott - he did what he had to do to get Turnball out. Vote 1 Tone  ;D
Ramps the conspiracy theory believer  ;D. Is that a scientist under your bed Ramps?   ;D

UK - Conservative government
Germany - Conservative government
France -  Conservative government
Italy - Centre-right coalition government
Poland - Centre-right government
NZ -  Conservative government

All those damn socialists above who already price carbon ..... oh wait! :lol
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« Reply #267 on: June 21, 2011, 09:26:05 PM »
the europeans are fruitcakes all of em running huge deficits. this is just a scam to get cash from the people. carbon tax is a scam.

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« Reply #268 on: June 21, 2011, 10:36:28 PM »
No Abbott isnt a scammer. He just did what he had to do to get the leadership of his party. The ALP on the otherhand are scamming the entire Australian population. Even Labor Members know it - theyre leaving in droves.  .

I think you are missing the point Flagman and there are 2 points here

Firstly, facts are your man the honourable and honest Tone believes that Climate Change exists, he supported an ETS until he relised that disowning it and changing his mind on it was his ticket to the Lib leadership, so he did the honourable & honest thing and knifed his leader in the back to get the top job.

Point 2 is he as leader of the opposition of this country still believes Climate Change exists and it needs to be addressed.

You have said this:

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the carbon tax and its climate change origins are nothing more than disgraceful scams. Its a scam and everyone knows it, its a scam because Kevvie boy and the good old Jules who wouldnt even know if her behind was on fire wasted billions on dodgy chinese insulation and school facilities that turned out to be portables lol. they wasted billions and have a huge hole in their budget revenues so we will have to pay for climate change which infact doesnt exist. give us a break! Its a scam. Even the Nigerians would be proud!

You have stated categorically that Climate change is a scam, doesn't exist and anyone who believes it exist is a scammer

I have asked the question which you have so far refused to answer if Climate change is a scam and those that acknowledge it are scammers is your man Tone a scammer too?

Because he has said repeatedly that although is against the Carbon tax he believes in Climate change and the need to do something about it> So based on what you have said he must be a scammer which is clearly disgraceful under your criteria

Or are you saying that the only people here are scamming the people on the issue of Climate Change in Aust are the current govt and not your man Tony and his party?
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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #269 on: June 21, 2011, 11:24:56 PM »
the carbon tax and its climate change origins are nothing more than disgraceful scams. Its a scam and everyone knows it, its a scam because Kevvie boy and the good old Jules who wouldnt even know if her behind was on fire wasted billions on dodgy chinese insulation and school facilities that turned out to be portables lol. they wasted billions and have a huge hole in their budget revenues so we will have to pay for climate change which infact doesnt exist. give us a break! Its a scam. Even the Nigerians would be proud!
I agree 30 years ago the scientists were telling us that we were due for another ice age because the world was getting colder. we seem to have ended a period of warmer temperatures now we will see what happens now that we are entering another cooling period. the polititians will be sure to come up with a better excuse to tax us for breathing 
I agree its a scam for more control and more money.  :banghead
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