Australian Politics thread [merged]

[Francois Jackson]

65, you were asked a direct question which wasn't about the boats

Stop deflecting and  answer the question

[tiger101]

1965 do you actually stand for anything or do you only hold anti-Abbott views. You seem to fit the latter to me.

You'll be waiting a while for an answer on that one T101. 65 is all Egress.

Sorry been busy.

I can tell you one thing I stand for...

A solution that will stop people dying at sea.

 

As long as that solution is put forth by the ALP though.

[Gigantor]

For me the differences between the ALP and Libs is more about perception,in essence their differences are miniscule.

[Penelope]

it does seem that way, but there are some poignant philosophical differences

[Gigantor]

Al I agree with you,but all this takes a back seat to 1) winning an election
                                                                           2) to not getting public opinion offside
These are the 2 overriding principles I feel modern political parties  let dictate their behaviour. Their grass roots philosophies aint worth jack when these 2 factors come into play

[Penelope]

true.

[Ruanaidh]

Al I agree with you,but all this takes a back seat to 1) winning an election
                                                                           2) to not getting public opinion offside
These are the 2 overriding principles I feel modern political parties  let dictate their behaviour. Their grass roots philosophies aint worth jack when these 2 factors come into play

Yep it's become an ever decreasing feedback loop.

[Gigantor]

so where does the average punter look for inspiration ?

[Penelope]

30% of people under 25 in the NT are not even enrolled to vote.....and they wonder why?

[Gigantor]

Al I wonder what would happen if they stopped compulsory voting.
would we become like the US where on average only about 30% of the voting eligible public vote

[Penelope]

Im an advocate for non compulsory voting, but with politicians wages linked to the number of votes they receive.

People that dont really care shouldnt be forced to vote as they end up making their decisions based on lame arsed logic (for want of a better word).

both sides probably have similar numbers of blind followers who would still vote so they probably cancel each other out and election results would be based largely on those making informed decisions, in theory anyway.

perhaps if politicians were forced to inspire people to actually vote for them rather than simply having to decide between the lesser of two ( some would argue 3 )evils we may end up with someone decent running the country

[Gigantor]

just trying to think which politician has inspired me in the last 30 years..Hmm only 2 come to mind and they both had faults.
one is jeff kennet
andf the other is michail gorbachov.

[Penelope]

 
our local independent MLA is pretty good

[gerkin greg]

Tony Abbott is an Australian hero....

Bring on Oktoberfest 

[Chuck17]

Word is Krudd is already dipping in the polls, wonder if the ALP will bring in a new leader before the election