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[Chuck17]

Don't think it will be an invasion more just bombing the poo out of it

[1965]

That's 12 Liberal scumbags that should be thrown in jail.


Liberal MP becomes the latest scalp
 
September 13, 2014

Michaela Whitbourn and Kate McClymont
 
A sensational corruption inquiry has concluded by claiming a 10th NSW Liberal scalp, with Port Stephens MP Craig Baumann sent to the crossbench amid allegations he took secret developer donations.

This brings to 12 the number of state and federal Liberal politicians who have resigned or stood aside after corruption inquiries this year.

One, Senator Arthur Sinodinos, told the Independent Commission Against Corruption on Friday he did not accept ''any responsibility'' for the NSW Liberal Party accepting donations from prohibited donors during the past state election campaign.

Operation Spicer, which concluded nine weeks of public hearings on Friday, investigated allegations that the NSW Liberals accepted money from banned sources before the 2011 election.

Senator Sinodinos was then the chairman of the party's finance committee. He gave evidence he was unaware property developers, who have been prohibited from making political donations in NSW since January 2010, were donating to the campaign.

''Property developers as defined by whom?'' he asked.

''What's your problem? Don't you know what a property developer is?'' counsel assisting the inquiry, Geoffrey Watson, SC, asked.

The biggest donor, a shadowy Canberra-based organisation called the Free Enterprise Foundation, allegedly ''washed'' almost $700,000 in illicit donations, channelling the money to the NSW Liberal Party.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/liberal-mp-becomes-the-latest-scalp-20140912-3fj4u.html#ixzz3DBOHkx6W

[Chuck17]

That's 12 Liberal scumbags that should be thrown in jail.

Will be able to share a cell with Gillard after the commission finishes with her, then we will find out who has the biggest nuts

[mightytiges]

That's 12 Liberal scumbags that should be thrown in jail.

Will be able to share a cell with Gillard after the commission finishes with her, then we will find out who has the biggest nuts

Based on her day in court, she has nothing to worry about. What a waste of taxpayers' money this is if that prosecutor's questions to Gillard are the example .

[Judge Roughneck]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/13/ron-pauls-audit-fed-bill-returns-congress/

[dwaino]

Tony must be very conscious of going back on his word once again by only committing 600 combat soldiers and saying this will take months, not weeks.

In truth this will take years until the job is done. We're now dealing with more than a handful of religious numpties in trackies and runners looking to just blow stuff up and more than just sectarian conflict between the Sunnis abd Shi'ites. This is now an organised unit looking to challenge the world order. They have established Al Raqqah as their capital, have taken over government and continue to run public services such as utilities, law and order and health (all to their own standard of course) to show that they are capable. They need to be hit with everything we (the west) has got before stuff like the Wahhabi rumblings of Saudi Arabia get bigger. Israel is obviously their final goal and as much as it would please me to see it gone, IS must be stopped before Israel get directly drawn. Otherwise we're going to have a post ww2 situation where Israel will claim and occupy the rest of the levant like the Soviet Union never gave back territory won from German occupation.

[Judge Roughneck]

[Judge Roughneck]

Tony must be very conscious of going back on his word once again by only committing 600 combat soldiers and saying this will take months, not weeks.

In truth this will take years until the job is done. We're now dealing with more than a handful of religious numpties in trackies and runners looking to just blow stuff up and more than just sectarian conflict between the Sunnis abd Shi'ites. This is now an organised unit looking to challenge the world order. They have established Al Raqqah as their capital, have taken over government and continue to run public services such as utilities, law and order and health (all to their own standard of course) to show that they are capable. They need to be hit with everything we (the west) has got before stuff like the Wahhabi rumblings of Saudi Arabia get bigger. Israel is obviously their final goal and as much as it would please me to see it gone, IS must be stopped before Israel get directly drawn. Otherwise we're going to have a post ww2 situation where Israel will claim and occupy the rest of the levant like the Soviet Union never gave back territory won from German occupation.

Given america has been at war 90% of its existence, 238/216 years - as a context

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States?id=1

Perhaps the group is not infact "attempting to challange the world order"?

 Have they once spoken out against isreal or lamented the palaistine cause?

Could it be they are infact American created / funded / armed?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NEuJ5v3AbJg&channel=3arabiSouri

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mikegiglio/11-photos-of-us-weapons-used-by-isis-and-some-rockets-from-a#4cf4tmk

Coincidentally this all fits in well for the military-industrial complex. Who's agenda has been meet one again; spread primarily fear and division via race and or religion. In order to continue a war without end (or perhaps we will win the terror/drug wars soon) which benifits arms dealers, resource interests. (Lithium, gold, oil, poppies etc).

It suits the expansionists policies of the Jewish state equally well. Proper justification for more land, walls.  All tied up in a nice little bundle.

[Judge Roughneck]

Don't think it will be an invasion more just bombing the poo out of it

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obama-assad-shooting-american-planes-141200579.html

[tiga]

Tony must be very conscious of going back on his word once again by only committing 600 combat soldiers and saying this will take months, not weeks.

dwaino I think he said many months at one stage which in political speak could mean years. To coin an old phrase, Anywhere is walking distance if you have the time.

[Judge Roughneck]

"It is a serious situation when all you need to do to carry out a terrorist attack is to have a knife, an iPhone and a victim," Mr Abbott said.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-terrorism-suspects-held-under-powers-introduced-by-howard-government-20140919-10ji7y.html#ixzz8rHkRoQpz

 

[Penelope]

In truth this will take years until the job is done.

if history tells us anything, this will take years, and the job will never be done.

this whole mess is a direct result of Daniel's idols, Team America ( stuff yeah!). they armed and trained ISIS and ISIS would not have got the foothold they have in Iraq under Saddam. we also contributed,thus are obliged to try to fix the mess.

[Judge Roughneck]

The job isn't sposed to be done.

The Jewish expansionist ideological foreign policy requires a consistent 'terror' enemy to justify their unethical actions.

Coincidence that the current situation: the rise of a small ork-like middle Eastern groupis the ideal xcircumstance for the powers to be.  (Oil beneficiary, arms dealers, bankers)

[Judge Roughneck]

In truth this will take years until the job is done.

if history tells us anything, this will take years, and the job will never be done.

this whole mess is a direct result of Daniel's idols, Team America ( stuff yeah!). they armed and trained ISIS and ISIS would not have got the foothold they have in Iraq under Saddam. we also contributed,thus are obliged to try to fix the mess.

Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif said Wednesday that the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq created the extremist group the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL. Further foreign military presence, he said, will only create new terrorists.
“If you look at the essence of ISIS, it’s the product of foreign invasion,” Zarif said during a discussion at the Council on Foreign Relations. “Foreign presence in any territory creates a dynamic for demagogues like ISIS to use the resentment in the population of being occupied.”

[dwaino]

In truth this will take years until the job is done.

if history tells us anything, this will take years, and the job will never be done.

this whole mess is a direct result of Daniel's idols, Team America ( stuff yeah!). they armed and trained ISIS and ISIS would not have got the foothold they have in Iraq under Saddam. we also contributed,thus are obliged to try to fix the mess.

Too right al. Not sure if I wrote it in this thread or another one but it is very much the doing of the west and a result of forming sides in the Cold War. Doesn't change the fact that they have to be stopped though as the repercussions of leaving them unchecked are dire.