Sorry Frankie no, I cannot see where Ramps is coming from. He bangs on and on about the same thing and his arguments fall short when he constantly plays the man and not the ball. He attacks Gillard over the GFC she wasn't PM, nor was she treasurer but her includes for the sake of whacking the ALP. Argument IMO falls very short
In fairness to you Frankie, despite your disdain for Shorten you raise valid points, so have no issue in answering your questions and debating the topics.
The two of you bring up the batts scheme and fair enough. It was a good idea poorly executed. However, and I have said this before drive around country town's and see the modern school buildings that were built under the govt stimulus projects during the GFC. It was the first time in decades they got anything from amy govt.To say they did nothing right is simply wrong.
I will give you the stuff up with money going into bank accounts of a deceased people, again poorly executed. But I doubt you or Ramps gave your $900 Back when it lobbed in your bank accounts
If you were across the state of the countries finances when the Howard govt got thrown out you would be aware that the surplus was not as great as believed. Because the then govt went on a spending splurge to try and get re-elected.
You can spin to anyway you want but Australia avoided a recession during the GFC one of a few that did. The other thing that cannot be disputed is that prior to this crisis the Australian economy was on road to nowhere... zero growth, spiralling debt and a dummy surplus that didn't exist in reality but existed when diverting funds from he futires finds and essential services (read NDIS)
