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« Reply #5250 on: July 03, 2020, 08:57:26 AM »
There is nothing to defend ramps hence why there is suddenly a case of memory loss

Mr Andrews. Wow. He should hand in his resignation. Fancy telling Scomo to stuff off when he presented him defence personnel on a platter. Now he let a situation where guards were sleeping with each other on the job then heading back to home to spread it even more

There is talk or those security forms rorting  the system And over charging the tax paper

ALP are finished here.
A sudden case of memory loss? I must have missed Frankie where you claimed the Federal and NSW LNP governments were finished due to the Ruby Princess  :shh.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/passengers-should-have-stayed-on-ruby-princess-inquiry-told-20200629-p557cf.html

Or are you saying the Government should still be blamed even when non-government individuals and companies blatantly, deliberately and even fraudently disobey covid rules and proctocols? You don't need training to know to not sleep with hotel guests nor hold multiple large parties ::). Nor do those returning from overseas in hotels need training to know to not leave their room and break the rules either.

This outbreak is due to a minority of selfish idiots breaking covid rules. Even this week we've had almost a thousand residents in the hotspots refusing to be tested. Then there was that selfish git on Ch 7 news a few nights back telling them he's not going to change his life for a 'flu' and he doesn't care if he passes covid onto his grandma and kills her. Tonight it's reported a bloke travelled up to Sydney while infected and caught a suburban train. Not the only idiots either in Victoria as when I went down to Cape Schanck a few weeks ago it was packed and there were large groups not social distancing. Some people saw the low and falling case numbers in May and the calls from some to open up faster because other states were and they became complacent and stupid. Others just selfishly don't care because any rules are against their "liberties" ::). There comes a time in these instances when individuals need to be responsible for their own pathetic behaviour and actions. Blaming others including the government is a cop out!

Thankfully, the state and federal governments aren't pointing blame at each other and are just getting on with the job of dealing with this outbreak. As Prof. Murphy said a few days ago they were expecting and prepared for these new outbreaks. They know covid-19 writes its own rules as its highly contagious and that we have no herd immunity nor a vaccine. So we are all still at risk of even further outbreaks including those cocky non-Victorians interstate.

yes, its now back on the idiots breaking the rules (which i agree with you by the way). Conveniently the andrews team have nothing to say so they are now reverting everything back to the enquiry. It was andrews who said Yes, then no to the federal government about the need for defence personnel, once the unions got involved and now look at the result.

He should be thankful scomo is a man of integrity and is hellbent on bringing them all together. I did initially blame the protesters, and whilst i agree andrews was weak as pee on allowing that, that wasnt really was caused this, although will we ever know with any great certainty?

So can we assume you would feel the same regarding this covid breakout it was a liberal led government? A simple yes or no will suffice. :shh

Also tell me MT how do you rate the alps performance over the rorts scandal given, something which has been conveniently been swept aside. You had this to say a few months ago.

Morrison is full of it! The same goes for his denials and lies regarding his government's systemic rorting of taxpayers money

surely the same goes for your beloved alp?

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5252 on: July 03, 2020, 05:41:25 PM »


 :shh
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« Reply #5253 on: July 04, 2020, 08:03:12 AM »
What a guy Dan is.

I would put up his presser yesterday but I cbf

This tells the story

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6169213505001?fbclid=IwAR2jQwMcOhv4pZf_kTS-vQ7J4xAn17QYylfEcI6sOvyBIamJ9K1OZeVvYMM

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« Reply #5254 on: July 04, 2020, 08:46:11 AM »
What a guy Dan is.

I would put up his presser yesterday but I cbf

This tells the story

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6169213505001?fbclid=IwAR2jQwMcOhv4pZf_kTS-vQ7J4xAn17QYylfEcI6sOvyBIamJ9K1OZeVvYMM

Glad to see you are using an unbiased source of information. Skynews FFS.

You can do better.

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« Reply #5255 on: July 04, 2020, 10:18:49 AM »
Sky is the most reputable news source in australia. Not like that rag tag 3rd rate socialist ghetto known as the ABC. Its just a socialist propaganda machine for unhinged groups like get up and the refugees advocates who want to turn Australia into a 3rd world slumheap. The sooner we start  kicking out the refugees from africa and the middle east the better.

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« Reply #5256 on: July 04, 2020, 10:34:54 AM »
What a guy Dan is.

I would put up his presser yesterday but I cbf

This tells the story

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6169213505001?fbclid=IwAR2jQwMcOhv4pZf_kTS-vQ7J4xAn17QYylfEcI6sOvyBIamJ9K1OZeVvYMM

Glad to see you are using an unbiased source of information. Skynews FFS.

You can do better.


the fact that you or anyone cannot defend mr andrews over this, or the alp over their corruption speaks volumes about how you really feel toward their conduct.

apologies for quoting sky news, who were really quoting the herald sun, who were really quoting Emergency Management Commissioner Andrew Crisp :lol

I will just leave these here for you to have a read 65.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-02/fact-check-scott-morrison-slavery-nsw-australia/12407280

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-17/victorian-labor-has-significant-problem-premier-daniel-andrews/12362858

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-03/victoria-coronavirus-hotel-quarantine-scandal-for-daniel-andrews/12418102
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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5257 on: July 06, 2020, 08:29:53 AM »
 :rollin

I have to laugh. I haven’t been on this thread for a while and after I remembered the vitriol that was thrown at Scomo (from the usual suspects) because of his holiday to Hawaii, I thought I might see some interesting posts about how Dan-the-Man has handled this corona situation in Victoria.

......crickets

 :lol
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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5258 on: July 06, 2020, 02:54:09 PM »
Just a couple of privately hired security guards hard at work at a hotel in another capital city in Australia

Not Melbourne  ;D

Oh and before people jump up and down about the link I've posted

Pictures and original story appeared in Rupert's "The Australian" behind a paywall   :thumbsup






https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8485437/Photo-shows-security-guard-Sydney-coronavirus-quarantine-hotel-asleep-job.html
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« Reply #5259 on: July 06, 2020, 05:17:50 PM »
:rollin

I have to laugh. I haven’t been on this thread for a while and after I remembered the vitriol that was thrown at Scomo (from the usual suspects) because of his holiday to Hawaii, I thought I might see some interesting posts about how Dan-the-Man has handled this corona situation in Victoria.

......crickets

 :lol

 :lol :lol yep

wasnt just hawaiigate though.

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5260 on: July 06, 2020, 06:28:48 PM »
I hope to have some time in the next few days to post my thoughts on the current events

Will say this though, i had the pressers of both Premier's on in background while I was working today

Been making an effort to listen to as many presser as possible. Why? Because believe it or not ALL media seem to ne only reporting the bits they want. Or more to the point what they want sensationalise

And that's ALL media, TV, wireless, newspapers

Who wpuld have thought any of them wpuld do that  :gobdrop
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« Reply #5261 on: July 07, 2020, 07:52:45 AM »
So instead a critique of your hero Dan-the-Man and the beloved Labor party all we are offered so far are pictures of what’s happening in “another” capital city.

Oh is this supposed to justify incompetency?
And is this supposed to soften the reasons for the current situation in Victoria?

If this was Abbott or Scomo do you think any of us would be asking for an opinion?

Maybe take another week to figure out why this is all the federal governments fault because Scomo went to Hawaii.  :rollin

Dan-the-Man supporters ask yourselves a question,
Which state is currently in the worst situation?
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« Reply #5262 on: July 07, 2020, 10:32:16 AM »
So instead a critique of your hero Dan-the-Man and the beloved Labor party all we are offered so far are pictures of what’s happening in “another” capital city.

Oh is this supposed to justify incompetency?
And is this supposed to soften the reasons for the current situation in Victoria?

If this was Abbott or Scomo do you think any of us would be asking for an opinion?

Maybe take another week to figure out why this is all the federal governments fault because Scomo went to Hawaii.  :rollin

Dan-the-Man supporters ask yourselves a question,
Which state is currently in the worst situation?

Are you baiting me? Mocking me?

I suggest you read my post earlier why I haven't been posting in this thread.

A very cheap shot indeed  >:(
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« Reply #5263 on: July 07, 2020, 10:37:29 AM »
Victorians have become parias to the rest of the nation because of the incompetence of state labor. This government is going the same way as John Cains government. When the economy was running it was all easy when the economy faultered Victoria was left on the brink of bankruptcy. Andrews got lucky for a long time but the economy is stuffed because of corona people arent buying property so stamp duty revenue is shot and the state has committed to billions of dollars in projects now suffering major overruns. Its a disastrous position for our state and once again it will be a profligate state labor government which will ruin victoria economically. The response to covid has bern diabolocal here, policies implemented have failed and labor continues to support failed migration strategies which can now be seen by this 2nd corona outbreak. Its these groups who disrespected our community and its these groups who are primary spreaders of this pandemic. Its time for Labor and their chronies to get out and let a proper responsible liberal government to take over before they destroy the state again.

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« Reply #5264 on: July 07, 2020, 02:53:31 PM »
This post isn't about defending the government just to highlight the battle ....

See below:

Is this not part of the issue? Are these selfish ignorant not responsible for their actions or not?

From the HUN

"The massive jump in cases comes as Department of Health contact tracers battle to prevent new clusters emerging in suburbs not yet locked down.

The Herald Sun understands their job is being made more difficult by an increasing reluctance among sections of the west and north western community to share information about where they have been and who their close contacts are.

In some cases people have reported delays of up to five days in finding out they are a close contact of a confirmed case, during which time they may have spread coronavirus further into new communities."


https://www.heraldsun.com.au/coronavirus/tower-control-worries-mount-border-closure-a-blow-to-tourism/news-story/1b3ea10d034fb01cd125aaf66082ce11





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