9th...NO WAY

[WA Tiger]

Unless we cause a massive upset today, we could be 13th by the end of the round if the Saints knock off North yet still only a game outside the top 8.

Ok, so we will be 13th then!! Not really fussed about the 8 this year now. Next year is the year we must and should be IN the 8...... No excuses.

13th on the ladder would give us pick 12 in the draft. I bet Dimma would love another Rioli to be available at that pick.

Wouldn't that be great MT, that would be the difference next year wouldn't it.

Yep the more potential A-graders the better  given shallowness in quality and class on our list after the  half-dozen or so Tigers. Better to finish lower and build a list looking at 2013-14 that will be up staying near the top for 4-5 years in a row rather than overachieving and pinching a finals spot now and stalling the rebuild thanks to no early picks.

100% agree with you MT... 

[gerkin greg]

be good to get a decent pick but finish just a game or two out of the eight

hopefully we get 2 games against GWS next year

[WA Tiger]

be good to get a decent pick but finish just a game or two out of the eight

hopefully we get 2 games against GWS next year

Hopefully we can at least win one of them....

[WA Tiger]

Good God, we really need to finish last now, never mind 9th!!!

[Hellenic Tiger]

Finish 13th above the two SA and QLD teams and take it from there.

7.5 wins may be the result and that may be pushing it.

On today's effort we'll struggle to beat GC17 in Cairns and the Crows at AAMI.

Just a far cry from 7 weeks ago when we met Essendon at Dreamtime.

It's the two biggest fallers from grace within a season match.

[Owl]

ninth... fat stuffin chance of reaching those dizzy heights.

[RollsRoyce]

We can finish 17th for all I care, pick up what's left of the draft after GC17 and GWS have finished raping it, and it wont make a lick of difference. Insipidness and failure are now so deeply ingrained at our club that NOTHING can save us!

[Francois Jackson]

We can finish 17th for all I care, pick up what's left of the draft after GC17 and GWS have finished raping it, and it wont make a lick of difference. Insipidness and failure are now so deeply ingrained at our club that NOTHING can save us!

Would have to say you might be right.
The final straw for me will be at the end of 2012, 3 years under gale and Dimma.
If these 2 can't fix our club then I will be so convinced nothing will
I still have faith but until they delist another 6-8 then we are going backwards
Ooh and another note
Bummers will beat us next week

[mightytiges]

We are going to struggle next year as well in the sense we will not make the finals so us supporters will just have to suck it up  . The list won't mature until 2013-14 and Dimma has only had two drafts to grandually sort through and toss out those not up to it. It's going to take another 2-3 years before we have a side with a A-grade core in the early-mid 20s age bracket.

Anyway crappy Saints footy reducing games to one goal per quarter  has actually done us a favour in knocking off North tonight. We are now down to 13th and with Adelaide winning last night and with winnable games for them to come we still have a chance of ending up with a top 10 first pick with a bit of tanking .

[Penelope]

stuff me MT, to tank you actually have to be able to win first, only then you can deliberately lose  .

seriously though, i don't think, ( hope ?  )that saturday was a real reflection of where we are at. we have had some good games this year and in most other games have shown at least patches of good footy.

if we get any more performances like that though i think i will be looking for a sturdy tree branch though.

[mightytiges]

eff me MT, to tank you actually have to be able to win first, only then you can deliberately lose  .

seriously though, i don't think, ( hope ?  )that saturday was a real reflection of where we are at. we have had some good games this year and in most other games have shown at least patches of good footy.

if we get any more performances like that though i think i will be looking for a sturdy tree branch though.

The scars of round 1 2009 still exist for many of those around then so that means our leaders are scarred as well. We are just totally intimidated by Carlton and we're a beaten side before we even step out on the ground and then we get monstered and pushed around on it. It's men against boys. So I actually agree al that yesterday wasn't a real reflection as we haven't been that pathetically soft and lazy this year. We just are mentally and physically fragile against the top sides of which Carlton is one of them. We break easily and they know it. We need to get to the stage where we can have our own line in the sand game. We still might lose but we no longer tolerate getting out-bodied at stoppages and ragged dolled elsewhere especially from little Garlett types targetting a 3rd-gamer such as Helbig.

I would say last week was a truer reflection of where we are at. About a 4-5 goal worse side than other up and coming sides like Melbourne who are a year or two ahead of us in their rebuilding. We need to add far more class and size to our list to catch up.

[WA Tiger]

Put your hand up if you still want to finish 9th....

When I started this thread thread I also mentioned that I would rather finish 14th or lower than 9th again if we didnt make the 8. Well many said they would rather finish 9th because we have improved so much.

stuff me, crap, now I would rather finish 16th, we are poo and we have no depth.

[one-eyed]

North winning tonight means we're now 1.5 wins behind 12th so with Geelong, the bye and Eagles in Perth to come in the next 3 weeks it's pretty safe to say we'll finish now no higher than 13th.

[WA Tiger]

So then, we should finish about where we deserve to be...bring on the picks. Absolutely ripped off though, had GC and GWS not entered the comp we could be playing finals next year with the picks we SHOULD have had!!!!!!

[10 FLAGS]

So then, we should finish about where we deserve to be...bring on the picks. Absolutely ripped off though, had GC and GWS not entered the comp we could be playing finals next year with the picks we SHOULD have had!!!!!!

And you have confidence in our recruiters? Even with the picks I doubt we'd be anywhere near finals. They dont know whats needed to play AFL footy and there looking for the wrong type of players IMHO.