Stopping the boats

[Judge Roughneck]

 

[1965]

The Libs have finally worked out how to stop the boats.

They are just not going to tell us about them anymore.

 

Clamp on boat arrival figures

Immigration Minister Scott Morrison's office has clamped down on information about asylum seekers issued by his department and border protection agencies.

Previously, the Australian Customs and Border Protection Service has issued statements whenever an asylum-seeker boat arrived and the Immigration Department provided collated figures each month, which they made publicly available.

But inquiries to both the department and ACBPS on boat arrivals are now being directed to the minister's office. Mr Morrison's spokesman is declining to provide any information.

During the election campaign, Mr Morrison flagged the possibility that boat arrivals would no longer be reported if the Coalition won government. He said at the time this would be an ''operational matter'' for the three-star head of the Coalition's new Operation Sovereign Borders task force.

Mr Morrison's spokesman reaffirmed on Friday that it would be up to the newly appointed military head of Operation Sovereign Borders, Lieutenant General Angus Campbell.

It is unclear whether General Campbell has yet issued a directive. As of Friday afternoon, sources on Christmas Island - to which asylum seekers on intercepted boats are initially taken - were saying there had been no boats in recent days.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/clamp-on-boat-arrival-figures-20130920-2u5as.html#ixzz2fSiJ7zVp

[Gigantor]

Yeah I heard that yesterday 1965,and it struck me as rather odd. Would this be to change the perception in the community that the boats are still arriving?

[1965]

Another Abbott idea that's peeing the Indonesians off.

Abbott's asylum seeker transit plan raises suspicions in Jakarta

Michael Bachelard, David Wroe
 
Tony Abbott, Australia's prime minister-elect, gestures as he speaks during a news conference at Parliament House in Canberra, Australia, on Monday, Sept. 16, 2013. Abbott announced his Cabinet team to see through the coalition government’s first-term pledges, attracting criticism for including just one female member.

A largely overlooked element of the Abbott government's people-smuggling policy involving asylum-seeker ''transit ports'' on Indonesian soil has emerged as the latest lightning rod for anger in Jakarta.

The $198 million plan to set up asylum-seeker terminals in Indonesian ports and elsewhere in the region has also met with criticism from a top international law expert, who says it would raise more legal questions than other controversial parts of the Coalition's policy.

Under the plan, the government says it would set up the terminals ''subject to the agreement of our regional partners'', then lease ''a fleet of fast transfer vessels'' to carry asylum seekers there from mid-ocean, so that they never enter Australian waters.

Officials would conduct health checks on the ship or at the port, and the smuggled people would be taken to nearby airports for charter flights direct to Nauru and Manus Island.

But the plan threatens to escalate tensions between Canberra and Jakarta over the issue.

Indonesian officials contacted last week said they were not aware of the proposal. When it was explained to Mahfudz Siddiq, chairman of the Indonesian Parliament's Commission I, which oversees foreign affairs, he said he thought it would be ''intervening in other countries' sovereignty''.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/abbotts-asylum-seeker-transit-plan-raises-suspicions-in-jakarta-20130922-2u81g.html#ixzz2feXaJf1d

[Chuck17]

Stuff Indonesia

[Judge Roughneck]

400 million Muslims many of who are on the verge of extremism

 Let's pee them off

Hitler would have loved you. 

[1965]

Now the Libs are saying they won't tell us if any boats have been turned back.

What sort of government have we got ourselves FFS?


Silence, even secrecy the rule over boat arrivals

Date September 24, 2013
David Wroe
Defence correspondent

The Australian public may never be told whether the Coalition is meeting a key election promise in having the navy turn back asylum-seeker boats, Immigration Minister Scott Morrison has said.

Unveiling the first steps in the new government's tough policy, Mr Morrison made it clear there would be tight controls on information under the military-led Operation Sovereign Borders regime.

He also flagged a dramatic acceleration in transferring asylum-seekers from Australian territory at Christmas Island to offshore detention on Manus Island or Nauru, prompting refugee advocate claims that people would not be given proper health checks.

Fronting the media for the first time with hand-picked military commander Lieutenant-General Angus Campbell, Mr Morrison said he would not go into tactical or operational details in his planned weekly briefings, including even whether a boat was turned back.

''We are not getting into the tactical discussion of things that happen at sea … This is an open briefing process but there are obvious limitations to what can be discussed in these forums for the protection and safety of the people who are … performing these tasks,'' he said.

Turning back boats was a key election promise by the Coalition. The aim is to deter further arrivals, but this cannot happen if turnbacks are not announced.

Mr Morrison and Lieutenant-General Campbell also declined to go into detail about how the decision would be made to turn a boat around.

Acting Labor leader Chris Bowen said refusing to reveal when attempts were made to turn back boats would be ''completely unacceptable to the Australian people''.



Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/silence-even-secrecy-the-rule-over-boat-arrivals-20130923-2ua88.html#ixzz2fkFrapRZ

[WilliamPowell]

What sort of government have we got ourselves FFS?

We have the government the majority of Australian's voted for - end of story

Like it or lump it

Get used to it 

[1965]

What sort of government have we got ourselves FFS?

We have the government the majority of Australian's voted for - end of story

Like it or lump it

Get used to it 

Nope

[Smokey]

Silence, even secrecy the rule over boat arrivals

Turning back boats was a key election promise by the Coalition. The aim is to deter further arrivals, but this cannot happen if turnbacks are not announced.

Ah, so this "Defence Correspondent" has an opinion that's right and the collective heads of those now charged with stopping the boats are all wrong.  And he knows this cannot happen how?

[1965]

Silence, even secrecy the rule over boat arrivals

Turning back boats was a key election promise by the Coalition. The aim is to deter further arrivals, but this cannot happen if turnbacks are not announced.

Ah, so this "Defence Correspondent" has an opinion that's right and the collective heads of those now charged with stopping the boats are all wrong.  And he knows this cannot happen how?

The deterrence factor was the reason given by the Libs as to why they would not be giving up-to-date announcements re boat arrivals.

Surely the same thing would apply to turning back the boats.  The Libs would want it known by the people smugglers and asylum seekers that boats were being turned back.

Unless they have no intention of turning any boats back.

Just like they never had any intention of buying boats either. (pack of lying bastards they are)

 

[tiger101]

What sort of government have we got ourselves FFS?

We have the government the majority of Australian's voted for - end of story

Like it or lump it

Get used to it 

WP your wasting your time he'll never accept it. He'll post daily articles,  hyperbole everything and claim the liberals are the worst government in history. All the while calling Gillard and Rudd the greatest Prime ministers this country ever had  .

[Smokey]

The deterrence factor was the reason given by the Libs as to why they would not be giving up-to-date announcements re boat arrivals.

Surely the same thing would apply to turning back the boats.  The Libs would want it known by the people smugglers and asylum seekers that boats were being turned back.

Agree, the same thing would apply.  Not sure why you are disagreeing with yourself?   No up-to-date announcements on anything - arrivals, turn backs, sinkings etc.  Ever consider they might be applying a policy of keeping the smugglers in the dark to deny them information they can use in plying their trade?  The only way the illegal immigrants will get information now is by their own family network sources and it will spread very very quickly when they get phone calls from their relatives from Manus, Nauru etc that they no longer get landed or settled in Australia.  The illegals will go on that information much more than the lies and deception spread by the smugglers if there is no other source of information.

[tiga]

If the rumour of Tony Abbot buying all the boats becomes true then I am ready to go! PM me for a prospectus if you are interested in becoming a part of this once in a lifetime venture. 

[1965]

WP your wasting your time he'll never accept it. He'll post daily articles,  hyperbole everything and claim the liberals are the worst government in history. All the while calling Gillard and Rudd the greatest Prime ministers this country ever had  .

History will judge Gillard well, Rudd I'm not so sure about.