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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #270 on: September 25, 2013, 07:51:51 PM »

Maybe the Abbott lovers are just starting to realise what they have done.

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Err no maybe folks are just wanting to get on with life rather than wallowing in pointless political discussions when a new govt is only just 3 weeks old into a 3 year term

It has only been three weeks and the stuff-ups are starting to mount.

The latest is from Christopher Pyne who is trying to take Tertiary Education back to the elitist pre-Whitlam days.

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And so he should every bum gets to go to uni these days which means that Australia doesnt have enough people in the trades. they should bring back the old style technical schools and slash university places and that includes the international students half of whom are complete dimwits.

Its also a disgrace that every 95% of these little bums doing VCE get to pass VCE? Why so they dont feel bad. Too bad, if your a moron you should be failed, if you dont work hard you should be failed, if your a mediocre student you should be failed. This nonsense where everyone passes is socialist bulldust so that the panzies from the left dont feel bad coz their kids are primarily dumb. 50% of the kids at university wouldnt know how get snot from their nose, they have no place at university, their place should be in technical colleges learning how to make fences, fixing cars, learning how to be plumbers or electricians or just being what they are good for in the extreme, dole bludgers. University places should only go to the academically capable not the dimwits.

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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #271 on: September 25, 2013, 09:21:51 PM »
only for the rich.
people need to learn their place so we can restore the natural order.

money = academia
no money = elbow deep in the academic's poo
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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #272 on: September 26, 2013, 09:34:54 PM »

No need for me to comment on this, just read it for yourselves.

Indonesia voices concerns about Coalition's boats policy 'loud and clear'
 
September 25, 2013 - 8:02AM

Ellen Connolly, New York

Could it have been a case of lost in translation when Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop met with her Indonesian counterpart Dr Marty Natalegawa in New York on Monday – or simply falling on deaf ears?

As far as Ms Bishop is concerned her meeting earlier this week with Indonesia's Foreign Affairs Minister to discuss the Coalition's controversial asylum-seeker policy was "very cordial", "positive and very productive".

Yet Dr Natalegawa clearly saw – and heard - it differently, and said he warned the Australian minister against implementing the policy, which he strongly rejects.

Fairfax Media has previously confirmed that the Coalition's plans to turn around asylum boats was unpopular with the Indonesian government.

"We have reiterated that Indonesia cannot accept any Australian policy that would, in nature, violate Indonesia's sovereignty," Dr Natalegawa told Indonesia news agency Antara News following the New York meeting.

''I think, the message has been conveyed loud and clear and has been understood well," Dr Natalegawa added.

But the message it seems was not heard by Ms Bishop who told Australian media 24 hours after the meeting in New York that they were in agreeance to put an end to people smuggling.


"I put to Foreign Minister Natalegawa that Australia will be making changes to the laws in Australia so that we take away the product that the people smugglers are currently selling and that is permanent residency in Australia."

Asked on three occasions to respond to reports that Dr Natalegawa warned Australia not to introduce such a policy, Ms Bishop refused to answer, instead she repeatedly described the meeting as "positive and productive".

"I'm not going into the operational details of our policy but I had a very broad ranging discussion with Mr Natalegawa and I'm confident we will be able to implement our policies."


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/indonesia-voices-concerns-about-coalitions-boats-policy-loud-and-clear-20130925-2ucuz.html#ixzz2fqyA1xBc

These Indonesian ships are violating our sovereignty.  Abbott's policy isn't about taking the ships into the Indonesian ports like the ABC and you like to claim 1965. Its within our sovereignty rights to deny entry and turn ships around as they attempt to enter our waters.

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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #273 on: September 26, 2013, 10:18:22 PM »
It's a bloody invasion and they should be repelled with force if need be, we need Dolph to be appointed as the Grand Admiral

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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #274 on: September 27, 2013, 10:43:18 AM »
It's a bloody invasion

makes the bombing of darwin look tame

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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #275 on: September 27, 2013, 10:51:17 AM »
japs dropped more bombs on darwin than they did on pearl harbour.

it was all kept hush hush at the time
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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #276 on: September 27, 2013, 01:46:00 PM »
japs dropped more bombs on darwin than they did on pearl harbour.

it was all kept hush hush at the time
al, Is that why so many houses in Darwin have inground pools?

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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #277 on: September 27, 2013, 01:56:38 PM »
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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #278 on: September 27, 2013, 02:35:47 PM »
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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #279 on: September 27, 2013, 04:20:45 PM »
Sink the boats problem solved.

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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #280 on: September 27, 2013, 04:31:35 PM »
We have transferred Asylum seekers back to Indonesia.

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The Australian Navy has transferred dozens of asylum seekers to Indonesian authorities during a rendezvous off the coast of Java.

The 44 asylum seekers and two crew members were on a boat which got into trouble 40 nautical miles off Java yesterday morning.

Suyanto, the head of operations at the Jakarta office of Indonesia's rescue agency Basarnas, says his agency did not have the capability to reach the stricken boat.

The Australian Navy intercepted the vessel and then advised Indonesia that it would drop the asylum seekers off.

In the early hours of the morning, an Indonesian rescue crew met a Navy ship off the coast of Java and the asylum seekers were handed over.

Suyanto says he does not know why Australia did not take the asylum seekers to Christmas Island.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-27/navy-transfers-asylum-seekers-to-indonesia/4985674


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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #281 on: September 28, 2013, 08:25:39 AM »
Yep, let's keep the borders open and entice illegal immigrants to enter our country by boat.  Anyone who thinks this shouldn't be stopped needs to have a long hard look at themselves.

Indonesian authorities hold grave fears for up to 70 asylum seekers still missing, feared drowned, after their boat sank en route to Australia.

At least 22 people, mostly children, drowned when the boat, which was carrying about 120 passengers, sank in rough seas on Friday off the coast of Java.

One of the passengers, a Lebanese man, had reportedly lost his pregnant wife and eight children in the disaster.

Just 25 of those aboard had been rescued before efforts to locate survivors were postponed on Friday evening due to failing light.

The search was expected to resume on Saturday.

It's believed to be the first fatal attempted asylum-seeker crossing under the Abbott government, and comes after another group of 44 asylum seekers were rescued by an Australian navy vessel in the Sunda Strait on Thursday.

The boat that sank on Friday had departed from the fishing village of Pelabuhan Ratu, in the Sukabumi regency, on the south coast of western Java.

It first got into trouble about 10 hours into its journey and efforts were made to return to Indonesia before it sank.

A police official from the district of Cianjur in Java said authorities were alerted to the incident after bodies were discovered floating in an estuary on Friday morning.

"We have now found 22 dead bodies, most of them are children as they cannot swim," the official said, according to news agency AFP.

He said the boat had broken into several pieces.

A spokesman for the Indonesian search and rescue agency, BASARNAS, said his office was not advised of an incident involving an asylum seeker boat until 3pm local time on Friday.

He said the Australian Maritime and Safety Authority had contacted BASARNAS about the boat.

The latest tragedy in waters between Indonesia and Australia comes amid a ramping up in tensions between Canberra and Jakarta over the asylum seeker issue, and days ahead of talks in Jakarta between Prime Minister Tony Abbott and Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.

Mr Abbott and President Yudhoyno will meet on Monday, with asylum seeker policy expected to be at the top of the agenda.


http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2013/09/28/06/33/fears-for-70-asylum-seekers-still-missing


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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #282 on: September 28, 2013, 02:23:53 PM »
Yet our new PM refuses to comment about the deaths at sea ::). Abbott now realising Government and foreign diplomacy is a lot harder than simplistic three-word slogans in Opposition.

ps. Once again it's not illegal to seek asylum. Desperate people will risk their lives and it's the people smugglers that are exploiting their plight for $$$. This is a global problem.
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« Reply #283 on: September 28, 2013, 03:01:34 PM »
Yet our new PM refuses to comment about the deaths at sea ::). Abbott now realising Government and foreign diplomacy is a lot harder than simplistic three-word slogans in Opposition.
ps. Once again it's not illegal to seek asylum. Desperate people will risk their lives and it's the people smugglers that are exploiting their plight for $$$. This is a global problem.

Indeed.

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« Reply #284 on: September 28, 2013, 03:02:15 PM »


And the longer this goes on the better the last government is going to look.

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