jury is out for me still.
ellis is another lacking in basic areas of the game. for afl players this is unforgivable.
i still dont see much difference between ellis and grigg. ellis has more skill.
ellis si supposed to be one of our better players yet we all lament the lack of chase the lack of tackling the lack footy smarts with so many poor decisions. these things are basics and ellis is poor in them so if hes supposed to be one of our better players what does it say for the rest of em.
i knoiw one thing if ellis played at fremantle he would not get a game. at fremantle lyon sets the bar in all areas, if you dont meet the standard in any are of your role you dont play.
i would realy like to know what the expectations are at richmond in this regard. and i would like to know what we do to address them. seems to me every yr the same blokes run around making the same old mistakes with no improvement in basic deficiencies.
jury is out on ellis but yet your happy with the likes of A Edwards occupying a spot on the list because he fills some role
wake up and smell the coffee mate, Ellis will be a good player for our club. He has played 50 games and would take him in a heartbeat over Conca or most other names you throw up on our current list as would most other clubs.
Just on Fremantle. Dawson is averaging 1 tackle a game. Obviously tackling is an area of Lyon's game plan then.
sheesh for someone who portrays himself as a knowledgable footy person i dont know if ive ever seen such tunnel vision.
smelling coffee or roses has nothing to do with it. applying some plain old common sense does. seems this comodity is greatly lacking around here at times.
zac dawson gets a game every week for one simple reason. as unfashionable as he looks he does the job asked of him week in week out and that is stop a tall opponent.
dont think ellis has been written off by too many. but people have every right to expect players to be reasonably well rounded and perform well, basics of the game. if they dont or until they do id say criticism is warranted.
are you suggesting ellis does not deserve criticism, or doesnt have areas he must significantly improve to become a well rounded player. if so that would be unbelievable. if not what are you carrying on about.
on edwards when we actually discover a player capable of performing the role edwards does yet alone play anywhere close to afl standard then for sure play em. outside of riewoldt i would still argue edwards is the second best fwd option we have, that must tell you something about how poorly i rate the rest of our permanent fwds. if we had a jack gunston type for sure get em in and play em trouble is we dont.
id say angus instead of issuing advice out to others you take some of your own advice get a reality check and get your head out of that dark tunnell.
ooh dear. I would think most people on here don't think A Edwards is the best option we have at the minute.
He is 30 years old what good is he ahead of say an Elton or Mcbean. Il tell you something mate i know i would rather see Elton or Mcbean given a go ahead of that bloke any day of the week, now or 12 months ago when we recruited him. In fact i would rather Pettifer ahead of him if you want the truth.
Not that he is a terrible footballer but having him on our list serves no purpose whatsoever. He was simply a wrong selection because once again the RFC over analysed the list and thought we were headed for premiership glory. Some may argue that Mcbean wasn't ready last year but most people said that about Joe D. So what, give them games and see what they have to offer. Edwards, Newman and those types are not the future so get rid of them.
Griffiths ahead of A Edwards, you cant be serious. Griffiths is our future be it on the field to see what his got, or at the trade table and Edwards is no more than a used condom that no one wants. Same goes for Chris Knights. We couldn't develop Matty White then went ahead let him walk and then recruited Knights from ADL with virtually the same money. A slow version of Shaun Higgins. Incredible!
As for Ellis what more do you want from a 50 gamer. He has areas he needs to work on(show me where i said he doesn't) but what i see each week when i go the footy is a good young player who will become one of our best players. He never stops running and in fact i would say outside the top echelon he is our next best. Look at Cotch with his 15 metre kicks and tell me what's his decision making like then.
Facts are the list is shot and we are mentally shot as an organisation and have no answers to the cancer that has riddled the club for 30 years.
Fix the culture, get rid of these second rate coaches and replace them with ruthless competitors (i.e Balme, Ling ), and we may start to rid the club of the disease.
