Rookie pick #60: Gibson Turner

[10 FLAGS]

How this situation can remind anyone of Tambling has me stunned.

Tambling has never been anything but a perfect citizen off-field. His approach to life was always one of his best attributes. The bloke has not only looked after himself, but taken in wayward family members etc. Taking a potshot at him is weak as pee.

People forget he even stood up in front of parliament and got the government grant over the line.

And in a further positive, we stitched the Crows up with him at the trade table.

I know you mentioned he did nothing wrong off-field WAT, but just seems strange to lump him in with a group of problem childs when assessing Turner.

Tambling helped us get the grant + from memory Dean McDonald and Todd Elton + next years compo pick. I think we done ok from getting Tambling to be honest.

[WilliamPowell]

How this situation can remind anyone of Tambling has me stunned.

Tambling has never been anything but a perfect citizen off-field. His approach to life was always one of his best attributes. The bloke has not only looked after himself, but taken in wayward family members etc. Taking a potshot at him is weak as pee.

People forget he even stood up in front of parliament and got the government grant over the line.

And in a further positive, we stitched the Crows up with him at the trade table.

I know you mentioned he did nothing wrong off-field WAT, but just seems strange to lump him in with a group of problem childs when assessing Turner.

Tambling helped us get the grant

He certainly did damo & Flagman

Agree it's not fair to lump him in with the so called "problem kids"

[one-eyed]

Richmond rapt
By Dale Fletcher
AliceNow
Friday, 16 December 2011

RICHMOND Football Club could not be happier with the addition of Federal flying forward Gibson Turner.

The Tigers, who selected the 177cm Turner with pick 60 in Tuesday's Australian Football League (AFL) Rookie Draft, have had their eye on the Demons 2011 premiership player for some time.

Richmond recruitment manager Francis Jackson said: ``We have been checking Gibson out for about 12 months.

``He didn't play much at South Australian league level this year but he has played great for his college, Sacred Heart, and during the under-18 carnival.''

Turner has spent the past two years at Sacred Heart College in Adelaide, a school which has produced AFL stars Matthew Pavlich (Fremantle), Chad Cornes (Port Adelaide, GWS Giants), Kane Cornes (Port Adelaide) and Andrew Mackie (Geelong).

Jackson said: ``We feel Gibson spending two years in boarding school has prepared him for life in the AFL, away from family and friends.''

The Tigers had no hesitation in selecting Turner, even though their last local draft choice, Troy Taylor, was delisted this year.

He said: ``Gibson is totally different to Troy. He will have the support network and has experienced life away before.''

Jackson said Turner will be a ``terrific fit'' at Punt Road.

He said: ``We picked Gibson up off the plane and we went straight to training.

``He wants to make the most of this opportunity.''

Richmond's link to Central Australia had no bearing on Turner's selection.

He said: ``We drafted GIbson because we think he will be an outstanding player for the Tigers in years to come.

``Gibson hailing from Alice Springs is just a bonus, but that will benefit our Outback Tigers program.''

Jackson said Turner has been earmarked as a small forward with a magnificent skill set.

He said: ``His quickness is a great attribute, especially with the amount of forward defensive pressure in the game these days.

``He also can take a contested mark. For someone to be able to do that at his height is special.''

Jackson said selecting Turner with pick 60 was an outstanding result for the Tigers.

He said: ``We knew Gibson had some interest from other clubs.

``He spent all of last week at the club and we got to know him well and for him to still be available when we had that pick was a great outcome.''

Turner will play next year for Coburg Tigers in the Victorian Football League (VFL), who are Richmond's affiliated club.

Coburg Football Club general manager and former AFL Central Australia boss Jake McCauley said: ``It is fantastic news for Gibson. I know him on a personal level from my days in Alice Springs and I think he will be perfect for us (Coburg) and Richmond.''

http://alicenow.com.au/sports/news-article/richmond-rapt

[WA Tiger]

He will have my 100% support but gee I think the comments he makes remind me of Tambling (did nothing worng just no good), Roberts, Taylor, Gilligan........

Bleks must all just look and act the same to racialists like you hey?  Clones!

Pretty disgusted in you labling me a racist Owl, I have never been and never will be, so for that sorry, but go stuff yourself. My comments were aimed at the club, supporting and managing Aboriginal players better than they have in the past, not at the colour of their skin.

We as a club seem to have mismanaged more Aboriginal players than I know of, thats what I meant. Perhaps the club should look at the way they manage "these" players, thats how I was trying to categorise "them", the Tamblings (was he given all the councilling he could of been re...Buddy brain), the others, were they given all the help they could. Were elders flown down to talk with them and support them..etc....

[bojangles17]

we need to do something left field and get these indigineous kids on the right track. Id be looking at enrolling him at melbourne grammer as a boarder and make sure he finishes his school and whilst there learn a thing or two about discipline. i think we've proven that taking delinquents straight into an elite sporting outfit simply doesnt work. Now Im not saying gibbo is a delinquent but i do understand he has been in some strife...straight to boarding school in his first 12 months and you know what, he might just realise his god given talents rather than peeing them up against the wall

Whilst I agree he needs to be managed I dont agree "straight to boarding school" is the answer. Doing that could actuallly work in reverese.

He needs a family environment where he is taken in, treated as a family member and given an education..IMO

From what I hear is he has his head screwed on fairly tight LMFAO at you guys guessing what he may or may not need

Well thats great then, we won't have a worry will we.....You can LYFAO all you want but gee our track record in this area is at about 0% success.....so wouldn't you think of managing people better moving forward???????

exactly, like our strike record of managing these fellas is what ....time to take some proactive steps in putting a lad in a place that he is ready to be an elite athlete...How about we thorw the book out on what used to be done and try something a little radical, like finishing school beyond 15

[Dubstep Dookie]

Whoa 

[bojangles17]

we need to do something left field and get these indigineous kids on the right track. Id be looking at enrolling him at melbourne grammer as a boarder and make sure he finishes his school and whilst there learn a thing or two about discipline. i think we've proven that taking delinquents straight into an elite sporting outfit simply doesnt work. Now Im not saying gibbo is a delinquent but i do understand he has been in some strife...straight to boarding school in his first 12 months and you know what, he might just realise his god given talents rather than peeing them up against the wall

Labelling him a delinquent says a more about yourself than it does him..  The boy is giving it a go!!!!  a bit of support can go a long way

http://www.insidefootballonline.com/news2.html

AFL NEWS
Territorian Turner making all the right moves
 
Gibson Turner is renowned for his moves on the football field but it was a move made two years ago that the lightning fast indigenous talent describes as the best of his career.
"I used to get into trouble with the police a bit so I moved in with my grandmother to stay out of trouble," he said.
"She's made me a better person and I owe her a lot because I wasn't going to school there for a while and if it wasn't for her I might have even been in jail instead of at this draft camp.
"I look back on it now as a really smart move."
While residing at Saint Teresa, an aboriginal community 140km east of Alice Springs, Turner began to turn his life around and by sheer chance got the break he was hoping for when a former scholar of Adelaide's prestigious Sacred Heart College offered his services tutoring students at Saint Teresa.
He tested Turner, along with three other students, who gained entry level requirements to attend Sacred Heart.
While apprehensive about making the move from a town­ship of 300 to a city of one million, the opportunity was one Turner says has developed all facets of his life.
"It was difficult last year being my first away from home but although I was playing for Norwood I didn't play much for them because there was so much school footy to play," he said.
"But this year I just got used to it and it's been a whole lot better. I only get homesick once in while.
"I've grown up and matured a fair bit I reckon, both mentally and physically."
Despite not testing at the October draft camp because of an ankle injury, the buzz is high on the livewire forward.
The 18-year-old averaged two goals a game for Northern Territory at the national championships and is considered one of the draft's best small forwards.
The one-time wayward teen­ager is now very much right on track.
"When I go home the kids there now think I'm the big role model," he said.
"They all want to be like me which is pretty good. If some of them can follow me it would be great."
A West Coast fan who rates Aaron Davey as his favourite player, Turner says he is ready to go anywhere to pursue his AFL dream.
Having been away from home for the past two seasons, he is undaunted by the likelihood of moving interstate.
"I'm ready for it," he said.

how about para phrasing exactly what i did say rather than misrepresenting me...dont do it again

[Bengal]

Bojangles, whenever someone starts a phrase with the "i'm not a    ............    but"  says to me they're actually excusing themselves before making the said statement..  Therefore i will come to this conclusion when you make the comment, "I'm not saying he's a delinquint but"  Judging and grouping people together based on where they come from is what racism is..  Not calling you a racist but just something to think about..

From the last article released i think Richmond have planned this kids move for over 12 months and have learnt from past mistakes they've made..  This is what Rioli did as well

[Penelope]

we need to do something left field and get these indigineous kids on the right track. Id be looking at enrolling him at melbourne grammer as a boarder and make sure he finishes his school and whilst there learn a thing or two about discipline. i think we've proven that taking delinquents straight into an elite sporting outfit simply doesnt work. Now Im not saying gibbo is a delinquent but i do understand he has been in some strife...straight to boarding school in his first 12 months and you know what, he might just realise his god given talents rather than peeing them up against the wall

Whilst I agree he needs to be managed I dont agree "straight to boarding school" is the answer. Doing that could actuallly work in reverese.

He needs a family environment where he is taken in, treated as a family member and given an education..IMO

From what I hear is he has his head screwed on fairly tight LMFAO at you guys guessing what he may or may not need

Well thats great then, we won't have a worry will we.....You can LYFAO all you want but gee our track record in this area is at about 0% success.....so wouldn't you think of managing people better moving forward???????

exactly, like our strike record of managing these fellas is what ....time to take some proactive steps in putting a lad in a place that he is ready to be an elite athlete...How about we thorw the book out on what used to be done and try something a little radical, like finishing school beyond 15

Have you read any of the articles about him?

He just finished two years at sacred heart college in Adelaide.

maybe take a Bex, lie down and reload ?

[bojangles17]

I actually just read that and feel somewhat vindicated as it would appear the RFC are more confident in his future as an AFL footballer as a result of last 2 years as a boarder

[Penelope]

if you had read the thread before sprouting off you would have known that.

 
vindicated...

[Owl]

I actually just read that and feel somewhat vindicated as it would appear the RFC are more confident in his future as an AFL footballer as a result of last 2 years as a boarder

You're not from around here are you?

[Owl]

He will have my 100% support but gee I think the comments he makes remind me of Tambling (did nothing worng just no good), Roberts, Taylor, Gilligan........

Bleks must all just look and act the same to racialists like you hey?  Clones!

Pretty disgusted in you labling me a racist Owl, I have never been and never will be, so for that sorry, but go stuff yourself. My comments were aimed at the club, supporting and managing Aboriginal players better than they have in the past, not at the colour of their skin.

We as a club seem to have mismanaged more Aboriginal players than I know of, thats what I meant. Perhaps the club should look at the way they manage "these" players, thats how I was trying to categorise "them", the Tamblings (was he given all the councilling he could of been re...Buddy brain), the others, were they given all the help they could. Were elders flown down to talk with them and support them..etc....

Well WAT, it gets under my skin, pardon the pun, that this crap constantly gets brought up, the bloke is an individual, and his aboriginality is not a group designation for "issues".  It gets old, it gets to me, I have some clan who are aboriginal so yes it does cut to the quick, just treat people on an individual basis.  I want to see what this bloke can do and how he goes about it and he gets as much of a chance as any other bloke at the club.  I called you a racialist not a racist, by the way.  Its an older term, was used in Britain.  If you start making assessments, judgements or drawing parallels between players based on race, it is by its very nature a racist act, positive or negative.  Troy Taylor stuffed up and got the big 'A', I totally support the fact, he is history but has nothing to do with this new bloke.  And no I won't stand by and let people talk about 'them' as if they are separate from the rest of us.  I mean, who the stuff wants to get beaten and molested at boarding school and how the actual eff is that going to make you a better person?  (except bojangles of course)

[WA Tiger]

He will have my 100% support but gee I think the comments he makes remind me of Tambling (did nothing worng just no good), Roberts, Taylor, Gilligan........

Bleks must all just look and act the same to racialists like you hey?  Clones!

Pretty disgusted in you labling me a racist Owl, I have never been and never will be, so for that sorry, but go stuff yourself. My comments were aimed at the club, supporting and managing Aboriginal players better than they have in the past, not at the colour of their skin.

We as a club seem to have mismanaged more Aboriginal players than I know of, thats what I meant. Perhaps the club should look at the way they manage "these" players, thats how I was trying to categorise "them", the Tamblings (was he given all the councilling he could of been re...Buddy brain), the others, were they given all the help they could. Were elders flown down to talk with them and support them..etc....

Well WAT, it gets under my skin, pardon the pun, that this crap constantly gets brought up, the bloke is an individual, and his aboriginality is not a group designation for "issues".  It gets old, it gets to me, I have some clan who are aboriginal so yes it does cut to the quick, just treat people on an individual basis.  I want to see what this bloke can do and how he goes about it and he gets as much of a chance as any other bloke at the club.  I called you a racialist not a racist, by the way.  Its an older term, was used in Britain.  If you start making assessments, judgements or drawing parallels between players based on race, it is by its very nature a racist act, positive or negative.  Troy Taylor stuffed up and got the big 'A', I totally support the fact, he is history but has nothing to do with this new bloke.  And no I won't stand by and let people talk about 'them' as if they are separate from the rest of us.  I mean, who the stuff wants to get beaten and molested at boarding school and how the actual eff is that going to make you a better person?  (except bojangles of course)

Agree with you Owl, I also know your clan relationships, you should know I have never been a racist and never will be mate. For Gods sake look where I have worked in the past and where I am now.

My comments were about managing Aboriginals better than the club does or at least has IMO in the past. IMO our club has the worst record for failure of Aboriginal players and its not good enough. I am trying to say that I hope the club appreciates this lads needs, should there be any, better thhan they have in the past. Or the put preventative measures in place to ensure he does not get home sick or want to leave the club.

Same as you mate!!

[tiga]

WAT, just to even things out, maybe you should have added Archibald, Ednie, Sipthorp etc... plenty of players have not cut it at our club for a multitude of reasons like attitude, fitness, ability to take instruction and so on.
I don't think the reason why these players left was because the club did not understand their culture or background, it was more like they just weren't good enough to make it in the top grade. Tambling went to a club like the Crows who have a lot of success with indigenous players yet he is still proving to be an average player at best.