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Re: Problem is our small forwards, not our KPPs.
« Reply #120 on: April 09, 2014, 02:49:11 PM »
people calling for Banfield to play still don't know he's on the rookie list?
Correct.  He and Miles are always being thrown up as selection changes to go into the senior team. Both are rookies and cannot be selected!
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Re: Problem is our small forwards, not our KPPs.
« Reply #121 on: April 09, 2014, 02:53:31 PM »
The whole fwd setup is broken

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Re: Problem is our small forwards, not our KPPs.
« Reply #122 on: April 09, 2014, 04:39:02 PM »
people calling for Banfield to play still don't know he's on the rookie list?
Or that he's pretty crap?  :lol

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Re: Problem is our small forwards, not our KPPs.
« Reply #123 on: April 09, 2014, 07:14:49 PM »
Griffiths is equal #1 for contested marks in the AFL.

J.Riewoldt is equal #1 in the comp. for marks inside 50 with 11.

Vickery has nine marks inside 50 (equal 4th in the AFL) and 8 goals (equal 3rd).

http://www.afl.com.au/stats


All while our useless small forwards at ground level have done sweet stuff all offensively and worst still defensively continually costing us opposition rebound goals  ::).
lol just goes to show one should not look at stats alone. our tall forwards have been horrid regardless of what stats people wish to look at,

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Re: Problem is our small forwards, not our KPPs.
« Reply #124 on: April 09, 2014, 08:10:13 PM »
Griffiths is equal #1 for contested marks in the AFL.

J.Riewoldt is equal #1 in the comp. for marks inside 50 with 11.

Vickery has nine marks inside 50 (equal 4th in the AFL) and 8 goals (equal 3rd).

http://www.afl.com.au/stats


All while our useless small forwards at ground level have done sweet stuff all offensively and worst still defensively continually costing us opposition rebound goals  ::).
Never mind the facts, plenty of experts around here will tell u how bad a player tv is,  :lol
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Re: Problem is our small forwards, not our KPPs.
« Reply #125 on: April 09, 2014, 08:28:11 PM »
Griffiths is equal #1 for contested marks in the AFL.

J.Riewoldt is equal #1 in the comp. for marks inside 50 with 11.

Vickery has nine marks inside 50 (equal 4th in the AFL) and 8 goals (equal 3rd).

http://www.afl.com.au/stats


All while our useless small forwards at ground level have done sweet stuff all offensively and worst still defensively continually costing us opposition rebound goals  ::).
Never mind the facts, plenty of experts around here will tell u how bad a player tv is,  :lol
id say if we really want to go into all arreas of this marvelous game called aussie rules footy id say the stats of the game would clearly paint a picture of a bloke who is  not even a glass half full footballer .
an abysmal failure as a ruckman  and totally deficient in too many areas to make it anywhere else. i wonder do we really want to start pulling tyrones game apart piece by piece statistically
trust me it wont change a thing mainly ordinary will remain mainly ordinary.

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Re: Problem is our small forwards, not our KPPs.
« Reply #126 on: April 09, 2014, 09:54:04 PM »
Griffiths is equal #1 for contested marks in the AFL.
I know it's only Round 3 but there's one from leftfield.

Edwards has got a bag of tricks which are of most use to us in a forward pocket. Can we please start playing players to their strengths!  :banghead
I can empathise with Smokey's frustration of how Edwards' career has panned out. It has been blindingly obvious from the beginning that he was most dangerous as a forward pocket with decent enough overhead skills to lead up to the flanks. It is just baffling that we aren't playing players where they are best suited. He has played 130 games with only 20 or so of them where he has been in the best. But I also think the club has wasted about 70 of his games; there was the disastrous attempt to recreate him as a hbf, he was returned to a fwd pocket and gave a great return, was then rewarded with a midfield elevation which overall has been below par. Put him in a forward pocket. These 2nd and 3rd efforts that he puts in are quite good-they could cause the opposition all sorts of headaches in the last line of defence. We know this because we have seen him do it when he is played in his natural spot!

Brett Deledio has always been a useful 'small' fwd whenever he has been rested forward, can play both the small and tall roles down there. Perhaps they could try it when he is struggling with close tags? Hmm?


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Re: Problem is our small forwards, not our KPPs.
« Reply #127 on: April 09, 2014, 11:55:19 PM »
Griffiths is equal #1 for contested marks in the AFL.

Should have been three years ago  :banghead. Already 22 FFS

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Re: Problem is our small forwards, not our KPPs.
« Reply #128 on: April 10, 2014, 10:05:36 AM »
Griffiths is equal #1 for contested marks in the AFL.

J.Riewoldt is equal #1 in the comp. for marks inside 50 with 11.

Vickery has nine marks inside 50 (equal 4th in the AFL) and 8 goals (equal 3rd).

http://www.afl.com.au/stats


All while our useless small forwards at ground level have done sweet stuff all offensively and worst still defensively continually costing us opposition rebound goals  ::).
Never mind the facts, plenty of experts around here will tell u how bad a player tv is,  :lol
id say if we really want to go into all arreas of this marvelous game called aussie rules footy id say the stats of the game would clearly paint a picture of a bloke who is  not even a glass half full footballer .
an abysmal failure as a ruckman  and totally deficient in too many areas to make it anywhere else. i wonder do we really want to start pulling tyrones game apart piece by piece statistically
trust me it wont change a thing mainly ordinary will remain mainly ordinary.

He is there to kick goals and is averaging just under 3 per game.

If he keeps that up then here comes a 50+ season and I CBF if he only gets 50 possessions for the whole year

End of story

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Re: Problem is our small forwards, not our KPPs.
« Reply #129 on: April 10, 2014, 01:04:00 PM »
Griffiths is equal #1 for contested marks in the AFL.

J.Riewoldt is equal #1 in the comp. for marks inside 50 with 11.

Vickery has nine marks inside 50 (equal 4th in the AFL) and 8 goals (equal 3rd).

http://www.afl.com.au/stats


All while our useless small forwards at ground level have done sweet stuff all offensively and worst still defensively continually costing us opposition rebound goals  ::).
Never mind the facts, plenty of experts around here will tell u how bad a player tv is,  :lol
id say if we really want to go into all arreas of this marvelous game called aussie rules footy id say the stats of the game would clearly paint a picture of a bloke who is  not even a glass half full footballer .
an abysmal failure as a ruckman  and totally deficient in too many areas to make it anywhere else. i wonder do we really want to start pulling tyrones game apart piece by piece statistically
trust me it wont change a thing mainly ordinary will remain mainly ordinary.

He is there to kick goals and is averaging just under 3 per game.

If he keeps that up then here comes a 50+ season and I CBF if he only gets 50 possessions for the whole year

End of story

But he has a habit of getting goals in junk time. He doesn't present himself when the game is on the balance. Where was TV when we were getting molested by the dogs? He was great against Carlton but really needs to be an outlet for us more consistently when JR8 isn't able to kick a bag.

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Re: Problem is our small forwards, not our KPPs.
« Reply #130 on: April 10, 2014, 01:34:19 PM »
could you define when junk time was in the three games we played so far?

(obviously the smart arse answer is the whole game, but i always thought junk time was that time at the end of the game when the result is pretty much set and the heat has gone out of the game)
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Re: Problem is our small forwards, not our KPPs.
« Reply #131 on: April 10, 2014, 06:25:29 PM »
could you define when junk time was in the three games we played so far?

(obviously the smart arse answer is the whole game, but i always thought junk time was that time at the end of the game when the result is pretty much set and the heat has gone out of the game)

and some players are trying to impress for the next weeks selection after bludging the rest of the game.

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Re: Problem is our small forwards, not our KPPs.
« Reply #132 on: April 10, 2014, 07:24:53 PM »
hmmmm....interesting..
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Re: Problem is our small forwards, not our KPPs.
« Reply #133 on: April 10, 2014, 07:54:47 PM »
could you define when junk time was in the three games we played so far?

(obviously the smart arse answer is the whole game, but i always thought junk time was that time at the end of the game when the result is pretty much set and the heat has gone out of the game)

Based on that definition, one of Ty's 8 goals was in junk time - the 22 minute mark of the last qtr vs GC to cut the lead to 19 points. Mind you, I reckon we were still in the game but if we are being harsh.

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Re: Problem is our small forwards, not our KPPs.
« Reply #134 on: April 10, 2014, 08:01:33 PM »
yeah, i dont think GC took their foot off the pedal.
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