Small forwards

[the claw]

Griffiths is equal #1 for contested marks in the AFL.

J.Riewoldt is equal #1 in the comp. for marks inside 50 with 11.

Vickery has nine marks inside 50 (equal 4th in the AFL) and 8 goals (equal 3rd).

http://www.afl.com.au/stats


All while our useless small forwards at ground level have done sweet stuff all offensively and worst still defensively continually costing us opposition rebound goals  .

Never mind the facts, plenty of experts around here will tell u how bad a player tv is, 

id say if we really want to go into all arreas of this marvelous game called aussie rules footy id say the stats of the game would clearly paint a picture of a bloke who is  not even a glass half full footballer .
an abysmal failure as a ruckman  and totally deficient in too many areas to make it anywhere else. i wonder do we really want to start pulling tyrones game apart piece by piece statistically
trust me it wont change a thing mainly ordinary will remain mainly ordinary.

He is there to kick goals and is averaging just under 3 per game.

If he keeps that up then here comes a 50+ season and I CBF if he only gets 50 possessions for the whole year

End of story

thats just rubbish and you know it. hes there not just to kick goals and thats the problem.  the whole side is struggling because of a total lack of out put from far too many.

hes the invisible man almost and makes no impact on games what so ever other than snagging the odd goal. i keep on asking what happens when he doessnt kick  his two or three a game,  the simple answer is he becomes a total liability rather than barely passable.  theres a lot of faith in a bloke who travels at just 1.1 goals a game and if the stats are to be believed he will have plenty of games where he doesnt get a sniff of a goal. already in three games most areas of his game have been appalling.

[mightytiges]

Griffiths is equal #1 for contested marks in the AFL.

J.Riewoldt is equal #1 in the comp. for marks inside 50 with 11.

Vickery has nine marks inside 50 (equal 4th in the AFL) and 8 goals (equal 3rd).

http://www.afl.com.au/stats


All while our useless small forwards at ground level have done sweet stuff all offensively and worst still defensively continually costing us opposition rebound goals  .

Never mind the facts, plenty of experts around here will tell u how bad a player tv is, 

id say if we really want to go into all arreas of this marvelous game called aussie rules footy id say the stats of the game would clearly paint a picture of a bloke who is  not even a glass half full footballer .
an abysmal failure as a ruckman  and totally deficient in too many areas to make it anywhere else. i wonder do we really want to start pulling tyrones game apart piece by piece statistically
trust me it wont change a thing mainly ordinary will remain mainly ordinary.

He is there to kick goals and is averaging just under 3 per game.

If he keeps that up then here comes a 50+ season and I CBF if he only gets 50 possessions for the whole year

End of story

thats just rubbish and you know it. hes there not just to kick goals and thats the problem.  the whole side is struggling because of a total lack of out put from far too many.

hes the invisible man almost and makes no impact on games what so ever other than snagging the odd goal. i keep on asking what happens when he doessnt kick  his two or three a game,  the simple answer is he becomes a total liability rather than barely passable.  theres a lot of faith in a bloke who travels at just 1.1 goals a game and if the stats are to be believed he will have plenty of games where he doesnt get a sniff of a goal. already in three games most areas of his game have been appalling.

A key forward's job is to either mark the ball or at the very least bring it ground so the smalls can swoop on the footy or at least force a stoppage to keep it in the forward line.

The problem we have is our talls are too often left isolated in marking contests with no smalls to be seen front and square at ground level. Our small forwards are continually out of position and too busy kick chasing upfield. As soon as the pill hits the turf in our forward line we're stuffed. If you leave your talls isolated and outnumbered then the ball will leave your forward line as quickly as it came in. It's no different tactically to Rugby Union where if your hit-up player is left isolated with little support then the weight of numbers by the opposition will see the ball turned over. 

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Griffiths is equal #1 for contested marks in the AFL.

J.Riewoldt is equal #1 in the comp. for marks inside 50 with 11.

Vickery has nine marks inside 50 (equal 4th in the AFL) and 8 goals (equal 3rd).

http://www.afl.com.au/stats


All while our useless small forwards at ground level have done sweet stuff all offensively and worst still defensively continually costing us opposition rebound goals  .

Never mind the facts, plenty of experts around here will tell u how bad a player tv is, 

id say if we really want to go into all arreas of this marvelous game called aussie rules footy id say the stats of the game would clearly paint a picture of a bloke who is  not even a glass half full footballer .
an abysmal failure as a ruckman  and totally deficient in too many areas to make it anywhere else. i wonder do we really want to start pulling tyrones game apart piece by piece statistically
trust me it wont change a thing mainly ordinary will remain mainly ordinary.

He is there to kick goals and is averaging just under 3 per game.

If he keeps that up then here comes a 50+ season and I CBF if he only gets 50 possessions for the whole year

End of story

thats just rubbish and you know it. hes there not just to kick goals and thats the problem.  the whole side is struggling because of a total lack of out put from far too many.

hes the invisible man almost and makes no impact on games what so ever other than snagging the odd goal. i keep on asking what happens when he doessnt kick  his two or three a game,  the simple answer is he becomes a total liability rather than barely passable.  theres a lot of faith in a bloke who travels at just 1.1 goals a game and if the stats are to be believed he will have plenty of games where he doesnt get a sniff of a goal. already in three games most areas of his game have been appalling.

A key forward's job is to either mark the ball or at the very least bring it ground so the smalls can swoop on the footy or at least force a stoppage to keep it in the forward line.

The problem we have is our talls are too often left isolated in marking contests with no smalls to be seen front and square at ground level. Our small forwards are continually out of position and too busy kick chasing upfield. As soon as the pill hits the turf in our forward line we're stuffed. If you leave your talls isolated and outnumbered then the ball will leave your forward line as quickly as it came in. It's no different tactically to Rugby Union where if your hit-up player is left isolated with little support then the weight of numbers by the opposition will see the ball turned over.

[the claw]

well well well the invisible man strikes again.  wouldnt get a kick in a footy factory.
we got as much out of him when he was subbed off than we did with him on the ground.  thats what happens when he cant snag the odd goal but hey his overall game is just fine lol.

[Judge Roughneck]

Tyrone ruck Hampson 2s

In: Elton McBean

[one-eyed]

Dimma's comments on SEN this week counting on Titch and Morris as our small forwards this season:


* Shane Edwards is a player that within our four walls that we rate incredibly highly. He’s a talent. He probably doesn’t get the kudos that he deserves, for mine. What he needs to do is get a little bit more selfish at certain stages and kick more goals. But he does some things - you would have seen the tap he did to Griffiths against North last Saturday. He’s an incredible player and we’re very lucky to have him.

* Steve Morris has averaged two shots on goal every game he’s played during the pre-season series. We’d just like a few more going through the big sticks but the defensive pressure he puts on is outstanding. I’ve got no doubt that role Jake King played, we missed last year.  He only played two games for us and we lost that defensive pressure.

* We’re hoping Morris and Edwards will be able to give us it back this year.

Audio: http://audioboom.com/boos/3017683-damien-hardwick-on-the-run-home
Full article:http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-03-25/tigers-pin-faith-in-seasoned-small-duo

[eliminator]

Though King had his flaws he had a good knack of kicking goals. I do not believe Morris has that same knack.

[Andyy]

Not pursuing Jeff Garlett will come back to haunt us this year imo.

ShEdwards can almost play as a medium. Huge leaping mark and imo a surprising good set shot. If he stayed F50 all year I reckon he'd kick over 30 for sure.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

I'm now quite sure that based on the credibility that Dimma has with him, WAT now has a high opinion of Shed within his 4 walls. 

[lamington]

Though King had his flaws he had a good knack of kicking goals. I do not believe Morris has that same knack.

exactly this. Push up at least was always in good positions when the ball went to ground and still able to put the ball through the big sticks on tight angles. I don't see Morris with the same kicking ability nor do I see Morris being able to position himself well in the F50 to crumb goals like a Ballantyne or a Betts would.

[No More]

Butler is the player we need to develop for this type of role, he can also play in the middle making a nuisance of himself with his pace.

[torch]

Still need a quick, deadly small forward.

[No More]

I wanted us to get Jack Lonie but alas he was picked by St Kilda in the draft. Would have been a star in the making in our team.

[camboon]

Lloyd kicked a few on the weekend but I think Lambert could be our best option in the future

[the claw]

Griffiths is equal #1 for contested marks in the AFL.

J.Riewoldt is equal #1 in the comp. for marks inside 50 with 11.

Vickery has nine marks inside 50 (equal 4th in the AFL) and 8 goals (equal 3rd).

http://www.afl.com.au/stats


All while our useless small forwards at ground level have done sweet stuff all offensively and worst still defensively continually costing us opposition rebound goals  .

Never mind the facts, plenty of experts around here will tell u how bad a player tv is, 

id say if we really want to go into all arreas of this marvelous game called aussie rules footy id say the stats of the game would clearly paint a picture of a bloke who is  not even a glass half full footballer .
an abysmal failure as a ruckman  and totally deficient in too many areas to make it anywhere else. i wonder do we really want to start pulling tyrones game apart piece by piece statistically
trust me it wont change a thing mainly ordinary will remain mainly ordinary.

He is there to kick goals and is averaging just under 3 per game.

If he keeps that up then here comes a 50+ season and I CBF if he only gets 50 possessions for the whole year

End of story

thats just rubbish and you know it. hes there not just to kick goals and thats the problem.  the whole side is struggling because of a total lack of out put from far too many.

hes the invisible man almost and makes no impact on games what so ever other than snagging the odd goal. i keep on asking what happens when he doessnt kick  his two or three a game,  the simple answer is he becomes a total liability rather than barely passable.  theres a lot of faith in a bloke who travels at just 1.1 goals a game and if the stats are to be believed he will have plenty of games where he doesnt get a sniff of a goal. already in three games most areas of his game have been appalling.

A key forward's job is to either mark the ball or at the very least bring it ground so the smalls can swoop on the footy or at least force a stoppage to keep it in the forward line.

The problem we have is our talls are too often left isolated in marking contests with no smalls to be seen front and square at ground level. Our small forwards are continually out of position and too busy kick chasing upfield. As soon as the pill hits the turf in our forward line we're stuffed.

or playing  exclusively as a shut down fwd chasing the tail of a direct opponent lol,  and doing that poorly.

ah going by some on this site, i would think we dont have sml fwd problems and our fwd line functions just fine.we have probably the least talented group of small fwds in the league. what really irks is those in charge do so little to try and rectify the problem while acknowledging the problem  does indeed exist.