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Re: Small forwards
« Reply #150 on: April 05, 2015, 01:50:23 PM »
The ball came out of our far too easily last year. It didn't on Thursday night.
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Re: Small forwards
« Reply #151 on: April 05, 2015, 02:00:22 PM »
The ball came out of our far too easily last year. It didn't on Thursday night.

Oh crap, it came out 5 times from one player...Morris, free kicks....
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Re: Small forwards
« Reply #152 on: April 05, 2015, 02:30:04 PM »
The ball came out of our far too easily last year. It didn't on Thursday night.

Oh crap, it came out 5 times from one player...Morris, free kicks....

Most of the frees were mental. Only 2 (maybe 3) you could say we're there.

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Re: Small forwards
« Reply #153 on: April 05, 2015, 02:39:25 PM »
The ball came out of our far too easily last year. It didn't on Thursday night.

Oh crap, it came out 5 times from one player...Morris, free kicks....

Most of the frees were mental. Only 2 (maybe 3) you could say we're there.

Don't hate the player, hate the game
no ones hating the player. they are hating the way he played. he was poor worse thab poor and supporters like you are just lying down and accepting it.

i keep on hearing he sacfrificed his game. that is just plain codswallop.

im asking again what tackles did he lay that you would not expect from any player. what pressure acts did he apply that you would not expect from say vyoung butler if we played him. what turnovers did his pressure force they must have been many to excuse a 3 possesion game. what defender did he actually take out of the game there wasnt one.

he gave nothing that you would not expect from a goal kicking fwd in fact he gave far less.

people defending that sort of output should be ashamed of themselves.

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Re: Small forwards
« Reply #154 on: April 05, 2015, 03:16:53 PM »
^^^^ This x 2
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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

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Re: Small forwards
« Reply #155 on: April 05, 2015, 04:23:47 PM »
The ball came out of our far too easily last year. It didn't on Thursday night.

Oh crap, it came out 5 times from one player...Morris, free kicks....

Most of the frees were mental. Only 2 (maybe 3) you could say we're there.

Don't hate the player, hate the game
no ones hating the player. they are hating the way he played. he was poor worse thab poor and supporters like you are just lying down and accepting it.

i keep on hearing he sacfrificed his game. that is just plain codswallop.

im asking again what tackles did he lay that you would not expect from any player. what pressure acts did he apply that you would not expect from say vyoung butler if we played him. what turnovers did his pressure force they must have been many to excuse a 3 possesion game. what defender did he actually take out of the game there wasnt one.

he gave nothing that you would not expect from a goal kicking fwd in fact he gave far less.

people defending that sort of output should be ashamed of themselves.

The tackles and pressuring were brutal in number and execution. If you can't see that then so be it. I couldn't care. I guess some peoples palettes for football intricacies is limited.

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Re: Small forwards
« Reply #156 on: April 05, 2015, 04:48:25 PM »
The ball came out of our far too easily last year. It didn't on Thursday night.

Oh crap, it came out 5 times from one player...Morris, free kicks....

Most of the frees were mental. Only 2 (maybe 3) you could say we're there.

Don't hate the player, hate the game
no ones hating the player. they are hating the way he played. he was poor worse thab poor and supporters like you are just lying down and accepting it.

i keep on hearing he sacfrificed his game. that is just plain codswallop.

im asking again what tackles did he lay that you would not expect from any player. what pressure acts did he apply that you would not expect from say vyoung butler if we played him. what turnovers did his pressure force they must have been many to excuse a 3 possesion game. what defender did he actually take out of the game there wasnt one.

he gave nothing that you would not expect from a goal kicking fwd in fact he gave far less.

people defending that sort of output should be ashamed of themselves.

The tackles and pressuring were brutal in number and execution. If you can't see that then so be it. I couldn't care. I guess some peoples palettes for football intricacies is limited.
and that people says it all. lol.
yep his tackles all 4 of em were brutal, he gave away a free kick every time he laid one. cmon your talking up his game point out just one instance where his pressure caused a turn over goal.
i guess some peoples ability to see a players worth is indeed limited by the blinkers they wear.

playing a bloke like king as a pure defensive fwd was a waste of time. doing it with morris was exactly that a waste of time. as i said defending that sort of game from anyone is a disgrace and shows just how low you have the bar set for our players.

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Re: Small forwards
« Reply #157 on: April 05, 2015, 05:14:55 PM »
His game was below average, a few free kicks against him shouldn't of been there and the idea of playing a small forward purely for defensive pressure is just silly. If the recruitment team can't find a skilful small forward with pace and Dimma can't get him to put in the defensive pressure he expects from Morris then it's time to sack some people and bring in people who can do it.

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Re: Small forwards
« Reply #158 on: April 05, 2015, 05:26:26 PM »
The ball came out of our far too easily last year. It didn't on Thursday night.

Oh crap, it came out 5 times from one player...Morris, free kicks....

Most of the frees were mental. Only 2 (maybe 3) you could say we're there.

Don't hate the player, hate the game
no ones hating the player. they are hating the way he played. he was poor worse thab poor and supporters like you are just lying down and accepting it.

i keep on hearing he sacfrificed his game. that is just plain codswallop.

im asking again what tackles did he lay that you would not expect from any player. what pressure acts did he apply that you would not expect from say vyoung butler if we played him. what turnovers did his pressure force they must have been many to excuse a 3 possesion game. what defender did he actually take out of the game there wasnt one.

he gave nothing that you would not expect from a goal kicking fwd in fact he gave far less.

people defending that sort of output should be ashamed of themselves.

The tackles and pressuring were brutal in number and execution. If you can't see that then so be it. I couldn't care. I guess some peoples palettes for football intricacies is limited.
and that people says it all. lol.
yep his tackles all 4 of em were brutal, he gave away a free kick every time he laid one. cmon your talking up his game point out just one instance where his pressure caused a turn over goal.
i guess some peoples ability to see a players worth is indeed limited by the blinkers they wear.

playing a bloke like king as a pure defensive fwd was a waste of time. doing it with morris was exactly that a waste of time. as i said defending that sort of game from anyone is a disgrace and shows just how low you have the bar set for our players.

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Re: Small forwards
« Reply #159 on: April 05, 2015, 05:26:34 PM »
Its not enough for Morris to be tough and hard playing as the small forward. Unless he can kick 1 to 2 goals a game it wont be a successful experiment he needs 20 to 30 goals by the end of the season.

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Re: Small forwards
« Reply #160 on: April 05, 2015, 05:54:27 PM »
Its not enough for Morris to be tough and hard playing as the small forward. Unless he can kick 1 to 2 goals a game it wont be a successful experiment he needs 20 to 30 goals by the end of the season.

Agree with this.
 
He needs to kick goals, we can't rely on the resting likes of Cotchin, Deledio, Martin to kick the goals your permanent small forward should. Just my take
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Re: Small forwards
« Reply #161 on: April 05, 2015, 06:07:56 PM »
I don't actually care if he kicks goals as long as he causes others to kick them.  If his actions lead to four to five goals a game, he holds his spot permanently.
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Re: Small forwards
« Reply #162 on: April 05, 2015, 06:11:52 PM »
So how is his influence to be measured ,by the goals he kicks himself or by the mayhem  he causes which results in goals and opportunities for others that might not normally arise

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Re: Small forwards
« Reply #163 on: April 05, 2015, 06:20:28 PM »
His game was below average, a few free kicks against him shouldn't of been there and the idea of playing a small forward purely for defensive pressure is just silly. If the recruitment team can't find a skilful small forward with pace and Dimma can't get him to put in the defensive pressure he expects from Morris then it's time to sack some people and bring in people who can do it.
hear here well said.
i dont think ive actually said too much different. you would think i killed the pope though going by peoples reactions.

So how is his influence to be measured ,by the goals he kicks himself or by the mayhem  he causes which results in goals and opportunities for others that might not normally arise
so point the mayhem out how many goals did his pressure create.how many tackles did he lay. did he manage to stop opposition rebound did he keep a defender quite.

im still saying  should we not expect that sort of pressure from whichever sml fwd we play.

for gods sake  3 disposals and 4 tackles which resulted in free kicks against. are people for real.

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Re: Small forwards
« Reply #164 on: April 05, 2015, 06:29:41 PM »
I don't actually care if he kicks goals as long as he causes others to kick them.  If his actions lead to four to five goals a game, he holds his spot permanently.

Can't agree Doc.

If his actions by giving away stupid frees is causing us to not score goals then we have a problem

So to counter that I reckon he needs to kick a few himself and he doesn't look like kicking one let alone 2 or 3

Personally I thought his game on Thursday wasn't anything great. Was again disappointed with the stupid frees he gave away, his not keeping his feet and again making poor decisions regarding whether to go the ball or man. Said it before far too often he goes the man when he needs to attack the ball.

To be honest and I will wear the whacks on this I reckon Petterd could do a much better job in that role. He can do the defensive stuff but can also snag a few goals along the way
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