Richmond vs Freo

[Gigantor]

time and maturity will give us the bigger bodies we need..with the exception of nahas

[Ruanaidh]

Just watched the replay and sheesh we made stupid mistakes and had passengers and were crucified by the umpires and were out coached and still lost by only 2 goals!! We are not far from being a very good side.

[rogerd3]

above the shoulders this game.
next week will be interesting...

had us going up 7-5 into the bye
lets hope 6-6. 

[tony_montana]

Their superior physical srength stood out from the beginning, 12 points flattered us imo

whats the answer then. wet or dry in finals the physical strength will come into it more.
still think when the injuries pile up the losses will get bigger and bigger.

Have to get stronger both mentlly and physically. It's no embarrassment to say freo out muscled us, they are a very physically mature side. We needed to stop playing dry weather footy looking for the release handball to the spare man, we kept fumbling in the wet and making freo's job of gaining yards easier as they just swarmed over any fumbles. Should have played Shane tuck style get I and kick it, reckon we would've won doing that

[Hellenic Tiger]

time and maturity will give us the bigger bodies we need..with the exception of nahas

Bullskata, We beat Hawthorn in the wet two weeks ago, beat Port in the wet two years ago in Adelaide with two less pre seasons on the kids. That day we broke the AFL record in tackles. Even Angus had 14 that day.

Reality is we played dry weather footy on a wet day and didn't get enough players to contests and hence didn't tackle and weren't as manic as Freo.

I'm willing to accept yes we dropped one we should not have but next week we need to put GWS to the sword and put the disappointment of Saturday behind us that's what good sides do.

[Bengal]

time and maturity will give us the bigger bodies we need..with the exception of nahas

Bullskata, We beat Hawthorn in the wet two weeks ago, beat Port in the wet two years ago in Adelaide with two less pre seasons on the kids. That day we broke the AFL record in tackles. Even Angus had 14 that day.

Reality is we played dry weather footy on a wet day and didn't get enough players to contests and hence didn't tackle and weren't as manic as Freo.

I'm willing to accept yes we dropped one we should not have but next week we need to put GWS to the sword and put the disappointment of Saturday behind us that's what good sides do.

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[cub]

That was about as ugly as footy can get.
Seriously anyone not an AFL fan would of been put off the sport for life on that performance.
DISGUSTING

[Eat_em_Alive]

They would have viwed it as a poor mans rugby...

[one-eyed]

On the Sunday Footy Show they mentioned we had 19 inside 50s to Freo's six in the last quarter. So we dominated but could only kick 1.4 while Freo kicked 3 goals from just those 6 entries. They were just more efficient hitting us on the counter while we botched our chances.

[eliminator]

Our delivery into the forward line was poor. In contrast Freo could spot up players. It was always going to be a danger game. Freo were up for it. Lyon has a very good coaching record aganist us. If you are down 10% in effort you are always going to lose. We played dumb football not wet weather football. We tried to play too cute in the first half. Collectively as a team we looked off the boil. We weren't going in as hard as usual, we were always been caught behind and sometimes we were just standing back.  I hope we have learnt a good lesson here and that the same mistakes won't be repeated

[RollsRoyce]

That was about as ugly as footy can get.
Seriously anyone not an AFL fan would of been put off the sport for life on that performance.
DISGUSTING

Amen! Absolute blight on the game that rubbish! What made it even worse was sitting in the rain all day, waiting for that corpse of a game to come to life. Talk about going from the sublime to the Shmitt-house in one week.

[RollsRoyce]

On the Sunday Footy Show they mentioned we had 19 inside 50s to Freo's six in the last quarter. So we dominated but could only kick 1.4 while Freo kicked 3 goals from just those 6 entries. They were just more efficient hitting us on the counter while we botched our chances.

It's not about "kicking efficiency" or botching our chances. I'll tell you why that happens, because it happens every single time that we get sucked into one of those "lockdown" games. They stack their whole side into our forward line when we try to attack, dragging their opponents with them and creating a frustrating congestion of bodies and limbs, where the ball moves an inch at a time. Eventually it squirts out just enough to get free, and they rush it up the ground before our mids and backs can untangle themselves, and get it to Pavlich who has acres of space to work in. The fact is they don't give you any chances to botch with those tactics. They're content to just sit on a one goal lead all day, sucking all the spectacle out of the game for four quarters. And in their, and the eyes of the media that's perfectly OK, because the end justifies the means. Well, I sincerely hope that Lyon burns out those purple pr!@#s trying to replicate that garbage every week on the wide open spaces of Subiaco. If there's any karma in footy, they'll be shot by August, and I'll dance on their frigging graves.   

[TigerLand]

Heard a good caller on radio re: Freo v Rich.

Fremantle had a lot of things fall there way, whilst sounds like excuses, when added together gives a good indication of the result.

- Richmond weren't at their best
- Fremantle were at their best
- Wet conditions aided Fremantles game plan of maul shutdown football, where it hindered Richmonds free flowing precise counter style.
- Losing Foley lost an important contested ball winner, Richmond weren't able to replace him with poor squad depth. Same as Jake King, losing forward line pressure and goal kicking.
- Sandilands going down was a blessing in disguise, making Fremantle smaller across the ground perfect for wet conditions. This also made Fremantle a little bit unpredictable. It also gave Jonathan Griffen a chance at being number 1 ruckman given that Clarke was also out. Griffen gave 100% and beat ex team mate Maric, whom he would know a bit about.
- Riewoldts injury made Jack less dominant.
- First half free kick count was 17-7 in Freo's favour
- Freo were kicking some freakish goals. 1 from a blind snap from the boundary, another a checkside from Fre ruckman Griffen which slithered through. Pavlich also had his kicking boots on which happens 1 in every 4 years.

So when you add all of that together, as much as they are excuses, the majority of those things are out of control of our control. The main one obviously is that we weren't at our best but the rest are all factors of "thats football".

So I don't think there is anything to look back on and go ge it's panic stations.

[one-eyed]

Coaches Votes (Hardwick and Lyon)

Richmond vs Fremantle

10 Pavlich (Frem)
6 Cotchin (Rich)
6 De Boer (Frem)
4 McPharlin (Frem)
2 Crowley (Frem)
1 Hill (Frem)
1 Tuck (Rich)

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[WA Tiger]

time and maturity will give us the bigger bodies we need..with the exception of nahas

Bullskata, We beat Hawthorn in the wet two weeks ago, beat Port in the wet two years ago in Adelaide with two less pre seasons on the kids. That day we broke the AFL record in tackles. Even Angus had 14 that day.

Reality is we played dry weather footy on a wet day and didn't get enough players to contests and hence didn't tackle and weren't as manic as Freo.

I'm willing to accept yes we dropped one we should not have but next week we need to put GWS to the sword and put the disappointment of Saturday behind us that's what good sides do.

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