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Certainly helps with knowing who is likely gone.
Can't find my list management thread from the past few years but I strongly believe we are 1 more list clean out before we start to have a genuine list that will be ready to go through its natural course towards finals and beyond. We can all whinge about today but fact is we have 1 more clean out to go.Looking at our over all list there still is a lot of poo to be cleaned up. Players on the list that need to be moved on:100% Gone:Miller, Brad Must go, no questions askedMcGuane, Luke Pretty self explanatoryGraham, Angus or Browne, Andrew Can't have both these guys on the list IMO. Both are barely VFL standard and only 1 should be a back up for Maric, recruit a 18 yo ruckman as the 4th ruckman at clubDerickx, Tom 2 years in the AFL as a mature age recruit? 5th ruckman at the club, can't possibly get another yearShould goConnors, Daniel Last chance this year, if it was round 23 now it's line ball. If he played every game and contributes he probably get another year, if he doesn't he's gawn.Jackson, Daniel Just my opinion that he isn't AFL standard, may play the odd good game, but if Jackson is in our best 22 I can't see us winning finals footballWhite, Matt Next year at round 1 will be a 26yo, speedy 180cm fringe player with average skills. I like Matty White but needs to be moved on IMO.Moore, Kelvin Inspirational stuff to come back but with 80 hip operations and with Rance, Griffiths, Grimes all now holding down KP back positions and Astbury and Post having experience in there. Is there a spot for Moore? Probably not, even if he gets back to his best he's no huge upgrade on Grimes, or Rance and Griffiths should be given as much exposure as possible.Webberely, Jeremy Question has to be asked where he is at? Seems to be a decent VFL player that has had the odd AFL game and made a cameo here and there. Would prefer to blood a young kid or see if we unearth a gem in the rookie draft.MacDonald, Dean Is he still playing? Doesn't seem to have huge wraps on him, a kid from Gippsland with personal issues, whilst I wish him well, someone else can take his spot.Maric, Addam Maybe to early to tell but delisted at Melbourne doesn't give you a good pedigree. Decent gamble, hasn't paid off thus far. Don't see anything changing.Time is running outPost, Jayden I like Post, but as a KP player he isn't coming on fast and at a normal rate may not be good enough compared to his competition.Nahas, Robin Just my opinion but other teams seem to find it easy to find small forwards in the modern game. Look at St.Kilda, Milera and Saad first year players are arguably already better than anything we have. Brisbane have unearthed Zorko and Hawks pulled out Savage and Puopolo a few years back, WCE with Josh Hill and Collingwood have stacks. IMO Shane Edwards will be our locked in small forward for the future, but he needs a mate. I dunno if Nahas is that guy.King, Jake Same as above, King is in our best 22 no doubt but plays the odd stinker and will turn 29 in our next pre season with a niggiling knee injury. Will play next year but I hope that our list matures and we recruit well enough to congratulate King on a fine career and next season be his last.4 Must delisted with 6 that are a maybe. I don't expect Jackson to be delisted unfortunately. I'd expect at least 3 of the maybe's to be delisted so 7 is a decent clean out. Which needs to happen if not more.Don't do an Essendon and think a mediocre list can take you far, the list will eventually mature to make finals but I'm not interested in making up the numbers like an Essendon with the likes of Davey, Dyson, Riemers, etc.Still need some depth in our squad and these guys are taking up room and doing nothing at VFL level.
Contracts list updated....http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=15135.msg287427#msg287427Contracts List:Unknown: Astbury, Griffiths2012: Browne, Connors, Derickx, Foley, MacDonald, McGuane, Moore, Newman, Post, Tuck, Webberley, White2013: Arnot, Batchelor, Conca, Cotchin, Dea, Ellis, Elton, Graham, Grigg, Grimes, Jackson, Helbig, King, I.Maric, Martin, Nahas, O'Hanlon, Rance, Riewoldt2014: Edwards, Houli, Morris, Vickery2017: Deledio Rookies: Brad Miller (mature rookie - 2nd year)Adam Maric (rookie - 1st year)Ben Darrou (rookie - 1st year)Steven Verrier (rookie - 1st year)Gibson Turner (rookie - 1st year)Piva Wright (rookie - 1st year)
Quote from: one-eyed on July 03, 2012, 01:08:17 PMContracts list updated....http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=15135.msg287427#msg287427Contracts List:Unknown: Astbury, Griffiths2012: Browne, Connors, Derickx, Foley, MacDonald, McGuane, Moore, Newman, Post, Tuck, Webberley, White2013: Arnot, Batchelor, Conca, Cotchin, Dea, Ellis, Elton, Graham, Grigg, Grimes, Jackson, Helbig, King, I.Maric, Martin, Nahas, O'Hanlon, Rance, Riewoldt2014: Edwards, Houli, Morris, Vickery2017: Deledio Rookies: Brad Miller (mature rookie - 2nd year)Adam Maric (rookie - 1st year)Ben Darrou (rookie - 1st year)Steven Verrier (rookie - 1st year)Gibson Turner (rookie - 1st year)Piva Wright (rookie - 1st year)This is an interesting list. You could easily drop Browne, Connors, Derickx, MacDonald, McGuane, Moore, Post, Webberley, White for form, injury or other reasons. Then there is the rookies, I could imagine up to 12 list changes given its a deep draft. Prob not but its reasonably possible. The only reason u keep graham is ruck depth while you recruit another one.This year could be brutal on the list.
Rfc fans should protest and refuse to renew their membershipsThese thieves take 30million bucks a year from us in MShips Trent cotchin memorabilia FTF gate collection etc etc and nothing ever changes except hopeKeep dreaming BG 75000 members and finals
Quote from: tidyman on July 14, 2012, 08:14:40 PMQuote from: one-eyed on July 03, 2012, 01:08:17 PMContracts list updated....http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=15135.msg287427#msg287427Contracts List:Unknown: Astbury, Griffiths2012: Browne, Connors, Derickx, Foley, MacDonald, McGuane, Moore, Newman, Post, Tuck, Webberley, White2013: Arnot, Batchelor, Conca, Cotchin, Dea, Ellis, Elton, Graham, Grigg, Grimes, Jackson, Helbig, King, I.Maric, Martin, Nahas, O'Hanlon, Rance, Riewoldt2014: Edwards, Houli, Morris, Vickery2017: Deledio Rookies: Brad Miller (mature rookie - 2nd year)Adam Maric (rookie - 1st year)Ben Darrou (rookie - 1st year)Steven Verrier (rookie - 1st year)Gibson Turner (rookie - 1st year)Piva Wright (rookie - 1st year)This is an interesting list. You could easily drop Browne, Connors, Derickx, MacDonald, McGuane, Moore, Post, Webberley, White for form, injury or other reasons. Then there is the rookies, I could imagine up to 12 list changes given its a deep draft. Prob not but its reasonably possible. The only reason u keep graham is ruck depth while you recruit another one.This year could be brutal on the list.After today Graham shouldn't even be offered a seat home let aloan another year on our list. He was a disgrace absolute disgrace!
