Richmond vs Melbourne [members' replacement game]

[Hellenic Tiger]

IN previous years we would have lost this type of match, yet we find the same Prophets of Doom telling us we are worse than Melbourne will be next year and we are going nowhere. I just find that incomprehensible.

It was a moronic statement by someone that is very good at making moronic statements.

Don't bother trying to comprehend it. Easier that way.

But it was said on a public forum. That person thought of it and posted it. Considering where my team has come from at the end of 2009 turnover of list and consistency this year I just find it staggering and needing to reply to that. 7-7 is better than 5-8-1 this time last year 4-10 in 2010 and 3-11 in 2009. I see improvement at the comparative stages in each of the last four years. Yet some don't and claim that Melbourne will be better than us next year.

Whilst I appreciate Damo what you have written I have also tied to make things easier by presenting these facts in a simplistic way also in the hope that the point I am trying to make has logic and substance rather than some sort of forlorn situation with no sign of abating.

[Coach]

No, mr tiagra, the insults were not made until you made incorrect claims about what other people were saying and made out that because someone watches the game on TV they dont know what they are talking about.

ok that might be right in your case Al and fair enough but if you read the thread again from page 8 I think, Coach threw some personal insults at me for having an opinion. I don't think it's necessary.   
 
Anyway, i'm over it now. Whatever. All good.   
 

Here was my first and only post to you during the game, Tigra:

Too many stupid players, list cloggers, vfl superstars etc whatever you wanna call 'em.

Until we get rid of these types we will never be good enough.

Bugger off dude. We've just made 7 changes and we're killing this mob

Where is the personal insult? Bugger off? I meant that as "you can't be serious".
You then took that as "Coach, you think all these players are great and are taking us into the future". You twist everyones words. You have a crack at anyone that isn't bagging Richmond. I didn't say we played well. For the 97th time, I wasn't happy with the game. I am happy we won easily after making SEVEN stuffing changes to the team.
It was your choice to twist my words into something else. You insulted me (and al) several times so I concluded my last post with 'You're just an arrogant jackass that has NFI.' That's the only insult i have dished out to you. and it's barely an insult, it's just the truth.
Davey

[rogerd3]

Tuck is the dead set heart of this club! IMO all round the best player we have! Mentally tough, strong, versatile, he has what our other players lack!

Cotchin then daylight. Tuck best player all round , you can't be serious. Love Tucky, but come on

Cotch great, but all round Tuck, plays back, mid, forward......

22 points up and we are poo..

Hands down the Dees will overtake us next year!

gotta love the hysteria some bring to the table.

[rfctigers05]

Not many gems win after making seven changes
Great win rfc  albeit the poor kicking
We need to win at least five games to play finals
I'm not getting my hopes up because I prefer to go to the well one more time
We are building a strong list so be patient rfc fans
Rfc needs to move Newey on for Chimp
I prefer a 4 goal win every week
Today's win demonstrated that we have some depth so suck it up and smile
Rfc
Roy from Coburg

[tigs2011]

Not many gems win after making seven changes
Great win rfc  albeit the poor kicking
We need to win at least five games to play finals
I'm not getting my hopes up because I prefer to go to the well one more time
We are building a strong list so be patient rfc fans
Rfc needs to move Newey on for Chimp
I prefer a 4 goal win every week
Today's win demonstrated that we have some depth so suck it up and smile
Rfc
Roy from Coburg

Did you just write something positive? 

[Smokey]

Why did the callers of the game continue to crap on how young melb was?

Rivhmond had a younger side by four months.

Thought the same thing at the time Bents.  Let's not allow the facts to get in the way of a good story hey!

[Ruanaidh]

that comment show what an illiterate simpleton you are, i never said we were great, just not as bad as some want to make out.

our biggest problem in recent times has been not taking the opportunities we have created, not a lack of creating opportunities.

this lack of scorboard pressure keeps the opposition in the hunt rather than burying and demoralising them.

besides that our we performing pretty much as a you would expect from a middle of the road side.

Al we are performing like a bottom six side ATM. Melbourne's game plan was more methodical than ours and they could have won but their skills let them down. At times there were holes everywhere today but Demon players couldn't extract or exact disposals at crucial times. You had to be there to see it.

actually you could pick get an indication that melbourne let us off at times with poor disposal watching on the box, and that it was a scrappy game.

I just find it strange that the essendon lovers want to bemoan a win over a side that beat the bummers.

considering where we are at overall, the 7 changes, which is nearly a third of our side and missing two of our best inside midfielders, as well as the bullcrap that went down during the week, like davey i'm happy to take the win.

i do find our goal conversion rate extremely frustrating and concerning, though, as that will haunt us.

What frustrates me Al is the over-possessing of the ball in the middle of the ground. While this is going on the forwards are making 1,2 and  three leads. If I was Jack I would be  In our first quarters we have been quick and direct but it all 'peters out' when the opposition side sets a 'loosey' or goes man-on-man. With Luke providing a new defensive pressure we should get it in there quick regardless. I blame coaches who are asking players to 'posses' the ball at all costs.

One of the effects of us inching towards goal is the collective movement of our midfield away from the centre of the ground. Hence when a point is kicked (and it has happened many times of late), they are not in a position to defend the quick rebound and surprise, an opposition rebound goal/point is scored.

BTW I take your point regarding the changes and their effect. I am not blaming the players it is a coaching issue.

[Smokey]

Great post btw Tucker.  Was that another Tucker Motivational?

[rfctigers05]

We were great guys take the win and move on
Remember the cliche :4game blocks
As long as the Tiges win I grin
We're still baby chimps but the roar of the real tiger is coming so be patient
Remember 8 posts on a footy field are plenty and an oldman tuck is better than a Newman
Please Dim Sim get rid of all Melbourne rejects
Rfc

[WA Tiger]

Tuck is the dead set heart of this club! IMO all round the best player we have! Mentally tough, strong, versatile, he has what our other players lack!

Cotchin then daylight. Tuck best player all round , you can't be serious. Love Tucky, but come on

Cotch great, but all round Tuck, plays back, mid, forward......

22 points up and we are poo..

Hands down the Dees will overtake us next year!

gotta love the hysteria some bring to the table.

Keep watching.....there will be more next year mate!

[Phil Mrakov]

lol Darcy just then on Gameday in the 3 things that he learned from the game said that Richmond need a 2nd forward target and that we tried Luke Mcguane there and it didn't work.

I thought Mcguane did pretty good for his first senior game as a forward.

[Ruanaidh]

lol Darcy just then on Gameday in the 3 things that he learned from the game said that Richmond need a 2nd forward target and that we tried Luke Mcguane there and it didn't work.

I thought Mcguane did pretty good for his first senior game as a forward.

Darcy is quickly becoming the most embarrassing commentator on TV or Radio.

[Phil Mrakov]

lol Darcy just then on Gameday in the 3 things that he learned from the game said that Richmond need a 2nd forward target and that we tried Luke Mcguane there and it didn't work.

I thought Mcguane did pretty good for his first senior game as a forward.

Darcy is quickly becoming the most embarrassing commentator on TV or Radio.

Agree he is an idiot.

Can't believe he gets a gig.

[10 FLAGS]

The concern for me at the moment is that our defensive efforts and structures have fallen down over the past month. It seems since the shootout win over St Kilda we've lost our way defensively (first quarter today was good though defensively).

When I said that we didnt play well against St Kilda and that we werent much chop people in here got all upset. That St Kilda game damaged us in terms of how our players changed the way they are supposed to play. Unless we get back to how we were playing before St Kilda with a big emphasis on defence, the eight is going to be difficult. You cant have clubs kicking decent scores against us and hoping we can get through, DEFENCE, DEFENCE AND DEFENCE. That needs to be the focus.

[Hellenic Tiger]

Great post btw Tucker.  Was that another Tucker Motivational?

Thanks Smokey this was just a Tucker looking at things with perspective.