From memory - foley, mcguane, moore and tuck are also from Spuds era
Dimma's regime whilst it has unearthed some gems has also had some failures:
From 2009 National draft: taylor, webberly, nason, farmer
and I think most if not all the rookies hicks, contin, roberts, westhoff with the jury still out on Griffs (taken the pick immediately before Fyfe and Bastinac), Astbury and Dea.
Plainly that year we recruited a lot of small body shapes that didnt come on. eg webberly nason and farmer - given we already had nahas and king - how many small blokes do you need?
From 2010 - mcdonald, Xman, and rookies jacobi, hislop
From 2011 - AMaric for the moment....
left from frawley era
jackson, moore, newman, tuck. jackson should have gone many yrs ago moore has been decent when fit, newman and tuck are in their 30s. before you can blink there will be none left from the frawley yrs. to have so few left from those yrs is crippling and shows just how poor recruiting has been.
wallace era
connors, cotchin, deledio, edwards, foley was a rookie selection in 2004 that puts him in wallace drafts.graham, king, mcguane, nahas, post, rance, riewoldt, vickery white.
theres 13 left from 2004 to 2008 drfts. 7 of them are borderline afl players and thats being kind. bloody hell its enough to make one cry.
i can honestly state that only only 5 maybe 6 players from these yrs are genuine long term players who are up to standard.
the 17 players mentioned should be our core group of quality big bodied experienced leaders that allow all of the kids from the hardwick era 1 to 3 yrs time to develop and lead them.
yet the truth of the matter is we are all waiting for younger players to mature and push most of these hacks out.
the reality is hardwick has started from almost as low a base as gc and gws and i dont see anyone demanding they make finals for awhile yet.
while what have been very ordinary players like nahas king edwards mcguane jackson white are clearly in our best 22 performed players we will struggle to win games against all sides.
ffs our best 22 falls away dranatically we need enough players coming thru to make these blokes nothing more than depth. we need about 30 decent players. atm we have about 15 who consistently perform near the level required. we have some kids who probably will step up and join those 15 but they arent there yet and there is no guarantee any of them will.
wallace era