This is the problem you have when there is no competition for spots a malaise comes over some as they know only too well that they will not be dropped then they just drop off intencity with the next bloke is going to do it. Get a few blokes doing that add a few more who shouldn't be playing in a suburban side and mix that all together and you have a recipe of disaster which is not the coaches fault but one of environment circumstance and one where the onus must fall squarely on the players.
You can't keep blaming a coach. Simple as that no other explanation boys. 
Yes you can. He recruited most of these duds down at Coburg. How is Nason going? We should have a third year player from that draft pick that would be providing depth at the very least. How many other picks have we stuffed up under Hardwick. Was the same fantasy that people projected under Wallace while he continuously recruited duds that never made it.
Do people think our list development is magic and the coach is a spectator to every facet of the football club and thus absolved of all responsibility.
not having a shot at you but that is a naieve post.
ben nason was taken at pick 71 do you know how many picks that late actually make it, you dont actually expect those sort of picks to make it its about getting lucky and knowing you just may have to use a similar pick 5 or 6 times to find one good player.
its about delisting a known dud and trying someone else who may or maynot make it. they usually last that long in the draft because they have glaring weaknesses in their game that usually catches them out.
of course hardwick has a say in the type of player he wants. but he doesnt choose the player or where that player is taken. ben nason was supposedly taken under the good kick mantra which should apply to every player we recruit.
hes cut 25 players from the 2009 playing list.
hes cut farmer/trade taylor/pick 51 and nason/pick 71 from 2009 draft. these are the only players on the list proper that have come to the club in hardwicks time and are gone apart from gourdis /psd.
hes cut none from the 2010 draft apart from gourdis who was a psd pick and we ended up putting him on the rookie list.
and obviously hes cut none from the 2011 draft.
on top of this we have cut and turned over our fair share of rookies without too much success. like late nd picks that is the nature of the rookie draft. you get em in turn em over and hopefully you find the odd decent player. most of the time you miss out.
i have to ask. under hrdwick we have cut 25 to date from the list proper but how many have we found to replace those 25. in three trade draft periods we have cut 25 not including rookies.
that means to replace them with good up to standard players we have to find 8 good players for each yr hardwick has been there, frankly people that just does not happen. not with late nd and rookie picks.
how have our trades and picks in the first 3 rounds fared that is the real question but remember two drafts have been heavily compromised with concessions.
