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Offline Yeahright

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Re: Aaron Edwards a Tiger [official]
« Reply #495 on: June 04, 2013, 01:08:38 AM »
That's 7 more touches than Edwards got in those losses.
Edwards didn't take a mark in the F50 and had a disposal efficiency of about 35%. Look he played well and it was his first game back so deserves a decent crack at it.

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Re: Aaron Edwards a Tiger [official]
« Reply #496 on: June 04, 2013, 03:05:15 AM »

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Re: Aaron Edwards a Tiger [official]
« Reply #497 on: June 04, 2013, 08:34:09 AM »
My concern is he played well against the lesser sides but struggled against the better ones but that may have been a product of where Nought were as a club possibly.
Anyway lets see how he goes. A good start. Lets hope he can build on it. :thumbsup

Luke McGaune [same postion as A Edwards] vs Melbourne

Round 8   19th May   Melbourne   Win 106-72   1   1   2   1   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   1   9   2

And that would be the game when the club later admitted he probably shouldn't have played because he had a virus early in the week?  I notice you didn't trot out his stats for any of the first 7 games when he was our best (most consistent) forward:

Round 1 Carlton 12d 3m 4t 2g 1b
Round 2 St Kilda 15d 4m 1t 2g 3b
Round 3 Bulldogs 14d 5m 2t 3g 1b
Round 4 Collingwood 10d 3m 1t 2g 1b
Round 5 Fremantle 10d 3m 2t 2g 0b
Round 6 Geelong 9d 3m 3t 1g 0b (the game that he was forced to ruck for much of the second half due to Maric and Vickery being injured)
Round 7 Port 11d 8m 1t 1g 1b

Compared to Edwards game last night:

11d 6m 4t 1g 1b

Not a lot of difference in my opinion and while I'm not saying that Edwards isn't a better option or that McGuane shouldn't have been dropped, I think you have allowed you hatred of McGuane to cloud the reality of it.  Both players can be inconsistent and will test our patience at times this season but be fair in your appraisal at least.

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Re: Aaron Edwards a Tiger [official]
« Reply #498 on: June 04, 2013, 10:40:33 AM »
McGaune was never our best forward. People judge him from lower standards because he is rubbish and Jack is a Coleman winner.

Edwards pressure was better IMO. And he looks like a footballer. Unlike McGun.

That's 7 more touches than Edwards got in those losses.
Edwards didn't take a mark in the F50 and had a disposal efficiency of about 35%. Look he played well and it was his first game back so deserves a decent crack at it.

err... even Geez would struggle to get the ball if hes not playing in the game

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Re: Aaron Edwards a Tiger [official]
« Reply #499 on: June 04, 2013, 02:13:04 PM »
McGaune was never our best forward. People judge him from lower standards because he is rubbish and Jack is a Coleman winner.

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Re: Aaron Edwards a Tiger [official]
« Reply #500 on: June 04, 2013, 02:40:41 PM »
His pressure acts...indeed all the forwards pressure acts, made a big difference last night. Has to happen every week.

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Re: Aaron Edwards a Tiger [official]
« Reply #501 on: June 04, 2013, 03:03:33 PM »
His pressure acts...indeed all the forwards pressure acts, made a big difference last night. Has to happen every week.

Agree. That is true for the whole team. Spud summed it up well when he said in reference to our increased commitment and work ethic last night that this has to be the rule not the exception with Richmond.
Challenge now is to keep it up. Amazing what happens when you tackle ferociously and work hard to make space.

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Re: Aaron Edwards a Tiger [official]
« Reply #502 on: June 04, 2013, 03:05:38 PM »
The biggest and only real difference between these two is that Aaron Edwards is at least capable of kicking more than 4 goals a game and when confidence is high could kick 5-6.

Luke McGuane will never ever do that and that is a simple truth.

On that alone A Edwards plays before Lukey. 

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Re: Aaron Edwards a Tiger [official]
« Reply #503 on: June 04, 2013, 06:14:15 PM »

My concern is he played well against the lesser sides but struggled against the better ones but that may have been a product of where Nought were as a club possibly.
Anyway lets see how he goes. A good start. Lets hope he can build on it. :thumbsup

Luke McGaune [same postion as A Edwards] vs Melbourne

Round 8   19th May   Melbourne   Win 106-72   1   1   2   1   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   1   9   2

In 5 games against sides outside the 8 , jack has kicked 22 goals.
In 5 games against sides inside the top 8, jack has kicked 9 goals.

......just sayin'
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Re: Aaron Edwards a Tiger [official]
« Reply #504 on: June 04, 2013, 07:49:34 PM »
Jack is unselfish smart.

LEDs to dead part so vickey can gobble it up

Skill and guile to play off or chef.at a plus standard

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Re: Aaron Edwards a Tiger [official]
« Reply #505 on: June 04, 2013, 08:43:32 PM »
i still think we should play him as a marking medium sized player.
one thing for sure hes shown hes better than griffiths astbury elton and mcguane to date. if he has to play with someone like glass on him he will get gobbled up and spat out. better to have a matchup like selwood or hurn where he has an advantage in the air.
we have imo just the 3 genuine mid sized forwards in ohanlon, petterd and aaron. hes the best fit of the 3 atm.

griffiths/elton/astbury as one kpf,  riewoldt the other,  rotate ivan and vickery with a edwards as the medium. add some pace in king play another small  forward s edwards  as well and you have all the bases covered.

If they want Glass to play on him, Glass will play on him. You don't get a choice who they send to him. It's like saying lets put Jack as a HFF so he doesn't get the best defender
thing is they wont play a medium sized player on a tall that is why they go with 3 tall defenders religiously.
he got mitch brown in the end because mitch like his brother have very good pace.

logic says if we went
vickery  at 200cm would  get -  mckenzie.
riewoldt 195cm  -  glass
elton/griffiths/ astbury -  brown
edwards at 184 gets who. hurn selwood ????

hes a medium who takes a damn good mark lets play him as a medium he attacks the contest and defends well enough.
for me hes excellent on the lead its something that wasnt prominent in his game last night.

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Re: Aaron Edwards a Tiger [official]
« Reply #506 on: June 04, 2013, 08:59:37 PM »
I'm not a huge fan of Mcguane but he did have a pretty good first 3 weeks.
And let's not forget his screamer against the saints.
Lockup was ok against west coke but I'm not pinning our forward fortunes on either of them.
Let's face it, if we are debating between Mcguane and Edwards we have a serious problem finding a third tall.

C'mon Griff!..Pull your finger out!
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Re: Aaron Edwards a Tiger [official]
« Reply #507 on: June 05, 2013, 12:34:08 AM »
Jack is unselfish smart.

LEDs to dead part so vickey can gobble it up

Skill and guile to play off or chef.at a plus standard

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Wut?

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Re: Aaron Edwards a Tiger [official]
« Reply #508 on: June 05, 2013, 08:15:21 AM »
thats just bent's ipad basdarising his reasoning as to why it's ok for some players to only perform against bottom sides and for others its not ok.
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Re: Aaron Edwards a Tiger [official]
« Reply #509 on: June 05, 2013, 09:28:19 AM »
Jack is unselfish smart.

LEDs to dead part so vickey can gobble it up

Skill and guile to play off or chef.at a plus standard

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Jack is:

selfish/unselfish/petulant/enthusiastic/individualistic/team-first
(scratch out whichever is not applicable for the particular game in question)

When Jack plays every game with the same intelligence, defensive mindset and team-first attitude that he did on Monday night then he will be in a position to be called great but until then he will remain the same frustrating and inconsistent player that we all whack on here at regular intervals.  If Jack had the same crack every week that McGuane or White does then he would already be a long way towards it.