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Offline Eat_em_Alive

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #210 on: April 28, 2013, 09:51:02 PM »
Good team tucker, hope the club chooses close to that. Just to think concs and foley in there and we are really looking dangerous.

Will be interesting to see who comes out
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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #211 on: April 28, 2013, 11:04:20 PM »
What I expect the team to look like for Saturday night when released on Thursday.

B  Morris   Chaplin   Rance

HB Houli     Grimes    Ellis

C   Grigg      Deledio    Martin

HF Knights   Vickery   McGuane

F  King       Riewoldt   S Edwards

Foll Maric    Cotchin    Tuck

Int Stephenson Vlaustin Jackson sub Newman

Emerg A Edwards Batchelor Dea

Sorry but you and Tony are way off the mark, why would we waste our best CHF in a pocket?

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #212 on: April 28, 2013, 11:10:45 PM »
close tb, only difference is personally I wouldnt go a 3rd ruckman

B.   Morris  Rance Grimes
HB Houli  Chaplin Batchelor
C. Ellis Cotchin Martin
HF Jackson Vickery Edwards
F McGuane Reiwoldt King
R. Maric Tuck Deledio
Int:Vlastuin, Grigg, Knights, Newman
Emerg: A.Edwards, White, Nahas

Cannot wait until Foley and Conca are part of that.

Likewise Tony I just put O in as I think he has been okay for Coburg, Maric needs a chop out and we are playing his old side and he may know a few things about their centre square, stoppage set ups and we can use that to our advantage.
Furthermore with Orren in the side Vickery can concentrate on playing fwd and given Rivers may miss we can stretch them at the back with Vickery Jack and Luke. I was even tempted to include Aaron Edwards given his form to stretch them further in the backline but......... we may be far too top heavy and it may come out the other way easier when it hits the ground and with their precision we may fall away once initial effort and commitment starts to wear off.
At least 5 rounds in I am having trouble picking a 22 for a team against a premiership fancy so at least I am consoled by the fact that we have depth there. However as you put it Tony boy it would've been good to have Axel and Conca out there in the 22 also. :thumbsup

I see where you're coming from but I still wouldnt play the 3 of them in the same side. If Vickery had another stinker last week, I'd have no hesitation in bringing in big O for him and letting him help out Maric in the ruck. As it is, he can give us the low down on their setups in the prepping during the week  :thumbsup 


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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #213 on: April 28, 2013, 11:15:39 PM »
What I expect the team to look like for Saturday night when released on Thursday.

B  Morris   Chaplin   Rance

HB Houli     Grimes    Ellis

C   Grigg      Deledio    Martin

HF Knights   Vickery   McGuane

F  King       Riewoldt   S Edwards

Foll Maric    Cotchin    Tuck

Int Stephenson Vlaustin Jackson sub Newman

Emerg A Edwards Batchelor Dea

Sorry but you and Tony are way off the mark, why would we waste our best CHF in a pocket?

Who are you talking about CHF in a pocket King or Titch?
Do you mean CHB? If that is the case no worries but as I said the way I expect to see them named on Thursday. Does not mean the 22 will line up like that on Saturday night once the official teamsheet has been lodged in.

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #214 on: April 28, 2013, 11:15:57 PM »
What I expect the team to look like for Saturday night when released on Thursday.

B  Morris   Chaplin   Rance

HB Houli     Grimes    Ellis

C   Grigg      Deledio    Martin

HF Knights   Vickery   McGuane

F  King       Riewoldt   S Edwards

Foll Maric    Cotchin    Tuck

Int Stephenson Vlaustin Jackson sub Newman

Emerg A Edwards Batchelor Dea

Sorry but you and Tony are way off the mark, why would we waste our best CHF in a pocket?

 I like to think of fwd pockets and HF's as floating fwds.
Fwd setup is 3 talls that rotate between FF, CHF and leadup fwd. 1 permanent small in King and 2 floaters between fwd and midfield in S.edwards and 1 of Martin/Knights/Lids and Cotch

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #215 on: April 28, 2013, 11:20:17 PM »
close tb, only difference is personally I wouldnt go a 3rd ruckman

B.   Morris  Rance Grimes
HB Houli  Chaplin Batchelor
C. Ellis Cotchin Martin
HF Jackson Vickery Edwards
F McGuane Reiwoldt King
R. Maric Tuck Deledio
Int:Vlastuin, Grigg, Knights, Newman
Emerg: A.Edwards, White, Nahas

Cannot wait until Foley and Conca are part of that.

Likewise Tony I just put O in as I think he has been okay for Coburg, Maric needs a chop out and we are playing his old side and he may know a few things about their centre square, stoppage set ups and we can use that to our advantage.
Furthermore with Orren in the side Vickery can concentrate on playing fwd and given Rivers may miss we can stretch them at the back with Vickery Jack and Luke. I was even tempted to include Aaron Edwards given his form to stretch them further in the backline but......... we may be far too top heavy and it may come out the other way easier when it hits the ground and with their precision we may fall away once initial effort and commitment starts to wear off.
At least 5 rounds in I am having trouble picking a 22 for a team against a premiership fancy so at least I am consoled by the fact that we have depth there. However as you put it Tony boy it would've been good to have Axel and Conca out there in the 22 also. :thumbsup

I see where you're coming from but I still wouldnt play the 3 of them in the same side. If Vickery had another stinker last week, I'd have no hesitation in bringing in big O for him and letting him help out Maric in the ruck. As it is, he can give us the low down on their setups in the prepping during the week  :thumbsup

That's cool Tony. :thumbsup
My thinking is that whilst yes he can offer the knowledge during the week in prep he can also be of benefit on the ground and tell some of our lads where to go. After all we know too well some of our boys are reactive to things as opposed to other teams being naturally proactive. On field advice could be valuable. :cheers

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #216 on: April 28, 2013, 11:21:25 PM »
LOL pay that   ;D

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #217 on: April 28, 2013, 11:29:28 PM »
It was more a joke in reference to Dimma consistently listing Shane Edwards as our CHF week in and week out

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #218 on: April 28, 2013, 11:32:02 PM »
 :lol
  went straight over my head yeahright    :facepalm

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #219 on: April 28, 2013, 11:35:52 PM »
:lol
  went straight over my head yeahright    :facepalm

Haha I thought maybe it was just a stinker. On a serious note both teams look good but I personally wouldn't want to see 3 ruckman

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #220 on: April 29, 2013, 11:31:53 AM »
what i hope the team looks like come rnd 18 onwards.it means a few kids have to take step ups.  its a team limiting as many as we can poor kicks and poor decision makers.

morris - chaplin - grimes

mcintosh - rance/astbury - vlaustin

conca -  tuck - deledio

s edwards -  riewoldt - knights

vickery - griffiths/elton - king.  no other option but king atm.

maric - cotchin - foley

ellis - helbig - newman - grigg/houli one of.

emg batchelor - dea

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #221 on: April 29, 2013, 12:08:51 PM »
The interesting thing for mine was Tucks exclusion last week even when we were down a quality midfielder in Conca. This forced Edwards up the ground too. So far we have had little return from our resting midfielders too. I wonder if a more permanent small forward is in order such as was broached in another thread?

I don't think we should play three rucks at present. Our strength is our run and spread and we would lose this advantage if we went too tall against the Cats.

How did Foley go on the weekend? Would he be ready to come in as a sub?

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #222 on: April 29, 2013, 12:16:07 PM »
How did Foley go on the weekend? Would he be ready to come in as a sub?

Club have made it very clear that he is going ot play at least 3-4 weeks at the VFL. Personally wouldn't want them to deviate from that plan

Cannot not under-estimate the gap between the 2 comps. Look at Helbig on Friday night. He's been playing great at VFL level comes in the AFL and was very much off the pace (ie pace of the game).
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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #223 on: April 29, 2013, 12:21:40 PM »
Thanks WP!  :thumbsup

So he could play but it is unlikely.

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #224 on: April 29, 2013, 01:04:49 PM »
Needs more strength in his peg leg