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Offline Phil Mrakov

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #240 on: November 22, 2013, 02:53:47 PM »
What's dimma thinking?


Morris. Grimes. Chaplin.
Vlastuin. ARance. Houli.
Conca. Cotchin. Ellis.
Lennon. Vickery. Knights.
Mcbean. Riewoldt. Shane Edwards.
Maric. Deledio.  Martin.
Hampson. Foley. King. Jackson.

Almost picks itself  :shh

If this side loses to Collingwood I'll lose it
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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #241 on: November 24, 2013, 01:43:32 PM »
based on output and performance to date the best 22 is vastly different to where we need to get.

mooriss  is best 22 is as tough as they come and gives 200% every time. but geez he has to improve some shocking areas of his game.
chaplain- very servicable player he plays for us exactly like he did for port.with his size would really like to see him become a better one on one player.
grimes - skinny injury prone tall defender. is a good spoiler but really hes not likely to ever play on big players and really needs to add a running component to his game.
vlastuin - looks great. with tuck gone i think he must be now played almost entirely as a mid.
houli - soft one sided panic merchant yep i know you all disagree.
grigg - for a running player his skills are poo, while provides great run and spread he fails in most other areas.
cotchin - very good player but hes not a great user of the ball by foot.
jackson - cant believe im saying it but he has done enough to keep his spot.  has eliminated a lot of mistakes from his game and it needs to stay that way.
s edwards - really is a liability far too often. managed a good season only to follow it up with another poor one. seems his best is the abnormal and his worst the normal.
a edwards - played some good footy for us but hes very hit and miss would love a better skilled ground player he a bit one dimensional.
hampson - sheesh is best 22 andhasnt played a game. mediocre is the best way to sum up his career to date. at 26 will it change.
riewoldt - has a knack of always kicking goals but he has some terrible traits in his game.
king - gives his all has a go and sometimes the only one who will stand up and fly the flag. but jeezus h Geez hes an ordinary player.
maric - been a great pick, always competes and gives a contest. but this yr that was about what it was rarely won his position.with his groin issues hes  in decline imo.
martin - does he really want to be at richmond. sorry but you have to ask the question with what has gone on. the more his motor builds the better he will become.
deledio - a model of consistency every yr. but he does have issues when given a tight tag.
newman - imo he should have retired. hes been in gradual decline and we now have players clamboring for his position. better players we will have to wait and see.
petterd - sorry people but no his skills are deplorable and again we are playing him in a position that is keeping better skilled players out of the side.
ellis - very poromising start looks very outside to me. has good skills and will become more rounded as he gets games.
conca - decent player but i dont get the hype. lacks awareness and vision and i have doubts about him becoming a real  decent mid.

hampson aside thats the team that had its pants pulled down in a final by the 9th placed side. need at least 30% improvement to make finals again and we aint gonna get it with that lot.

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #242 on: November 24, 2013, 03:19:33 PM »
Claw -  I rarely hear a positive word about our players from you. The players are ordinary, the recruiters are ordinary, the coaches are ordinary and the supporters are ordinary. Maybe its time to start drinking some half full glasses/beers for a change.

I think we have a very strong team at the moment which is evident by our 5th place finish last year. We need to upgrade on some players and continue to create a very competitive culture where spots are fought for, but reading your last post makes it seem like we need to delist 3/4 of the squad. This is just not factual. No player in the league in perfect and no side can contain 22 A grade players.....(GC and GWS excepted of course  :shh)

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #243 on: November 24, 2013, 04:07:04 PM »
 :bow Stripes  :bow

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #244 on: November 24, 2013, 05:33:14 PM »
Stripes, you're taking things out of context, hes not negative, just realistic....blah blah blah...just shoot me now

Imagine what its like like for those poor souls that have to be constantly dragged down by this in real life, rather than just some posts on an interweb forum.
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Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
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So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #245 on: November 24, 2013, 05:37:59 PM »

houli - soft one sided panic merchant yep i know you all disagree.



If this isn't racism then I don't know what is
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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #246 on: November 24, 2013, 06:59:19 PM »
Only read the first one - but what area is morris "shocking in?

Who are these AFL back pockets that are light years ahead?

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #247 on: November 24, 2013, 10:02:00 PM »
Hip hip hooray!!!!!!!....

.......We finished 5th.

I agree with claw here.

Facts Losing to the cheating scum in a final was totally unacceptable and purely our own fault.
It was wrong. The club failed us...twice.
stuff me we made the finals only to undo all the great work by losing to the enemy.  :banghead
They need to make it up to us big time in 2014!

We are NEVER finished achieving until we've achieved everything.

I demand satisfaction!!!!!!
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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #248 on: November 24, 2013, 10:46:32 PM »
Decent


2.
of an acceptable standard; satisfactory.
"people need decent homes"
synonyms:   satisfactory, reasonable, fair, acceptable, adequate, sufficient, sufficiently good, good enough, ample, up to scratch, up to the mark, up to standard, up to par, competent, not bad, all right, average, tolerable, passable, suitable



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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #249 on: November 24, 2013, 10:50:06 PM »
Claw - you seem a depressed character. I rarely hear a positive word about our players from you. The players are sh.te, the recruiters are sh.te, the coaches are sh.te and the supporters are sh.te. Maybe its time to start drinking some half full glasses for a change.

I think we have a very strong team at the moment which is evident by our 5th place finish last year. We need to upgrade on some players and continue to create a very competitive culture where spots are fought for, but reading your last post makes it seem like we need to delist 3/4 of the squad. This is just not factual. No player in the league in perfect and no side can contain 22 A grade players.....(GC and GWS excepted of course  :shh)

Is the whole world poo?

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #250 on: November 24, 2013, 10:51:47 PM »

houli - soft one sided panic merchant yep i know you all disagree.



If this isn't racism then I don't know what is

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #251 on: November 24, 2013, 11:32:25 PM »

houli - soft one sided panic merchant yep i know you all disagree.



If this isn't racism then I don't know what is

 ::) taking the pee arent you?

Do you have proof of this?
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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #252 on: November 25, 2013, 06:04:59 AM »

houli - soft one sided panic merchant yep i know you all disagree.



If this isn't racism then I don't know what is
Yes, a quarter filled bag of some yellow type fluid, labelled "pisstake"

 ::) taking the pee arent you?

Do you have proof of this?
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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #253 on: November 25, 2013, 10:45:10 AM »
Look I'm not meaning to insult claw personally. I'm saying that perhaps we need to balance the negatives out with the positives. We are building as evident by our 5th place finish and should celebrate that fact. Should we be content with dropping out in the first week of finals - hell no, but we should at least see that we are trending upwards and our list is improving.

We have a strong list now. Our midfield is one of the best in the league and still developing. Our backline is stable and assisted the side in becoming one of the most miserly in the league. We have spread the load with scoring and no longer rely on Jack alone. All of this should be celebrated.

Looking at individual players - they have weaknesses. Some more than others. What the coaches and players alike need to do is create roles and structures to best highlight their strengths and hide their weaknesses. Weaknesses need to be worked on of course, but we are never going to have a side where we have no players without flaws in their game.

I'm probably guilty of being too optimistic with the players and club but I go by the theory that you should celebrate success because you never know when it may come again. Preparing for the worst is one thing, continually focusing on our flaws is another.

A little off topic but I saw a study where they asked a group of 100 Uni Students who had never bowled (10 pin) to have a game. They had them play a game and divided them evenly. They then gave one group professional coaches who pinpointed their weaknesses and gave them tips/strategies to make improvements on their game. The other group they gave coaches who were only positives, cheering their game and telling them all the good things they did. They game taught them nothing but rather just acted as cheerleaders. Both groups then played off against each other for the rest of the afternoon.

The team that had professional coaching improved by 16%. The team that only received positive stuff improved 92%. Confidence is an amazing thing  :thumbsup

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #254 on: November 25, 2013, 11:35:39 AM »
Although claw brings up some valid points, he way too critical. Honestly if I didn't know the team I was reading about, I would have thought that I was reading about the wooden spooner rather than a team that finished with 15 victories.
Every player has some deficiency.  So what? As long as they follow the game plan and play within their limitations, we will be more than competitive next year!
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