What's our best 22 now?

[Tiger-Harted]

Not to shabby at all, well done and welcome to the forum..

Thanks - it's great to be part of the discussion - We are still 2-3 A-grade footballers away but with the seconds at home and stability in the club we're in the best shape we have been for years...

[the claw]

needs.
quality kpd, ruck/for,  genuine sml for, genuine med  forward. possibly kpf.  decent run and carry players with good footskills.  an inside replacement for tuck.
in an attempt to find and fill these holes id be going with the following.  my attitude is that we have taken mature players and you take em to immediately improve your team not to prop up the reserves side.
i al;so think with the nunber of forwards we have taken a quality player like lennon  should come of hb as a part of his education.

me im looking to the future still and dont believe many of our regulars are capable of taking us to top 4 and a flag hence im still looking to play and find out what some of the younger blokes have to offer.

b/  morris - chaplin - grimes.
hb/ mcintosh - rance - lennon.

c/ ellis - martin - deledio
r/ maric - cotchin - vlastuin.

hf/ knights - riewoldt - gordon.
f/  lloyd - vickery - hampson.

int/ jackson - conca - foley - arnot.

regulars who are not named.
 king - replaced by lloyd this is an area we all know we must improve in but geez its kingy we cant do it. well imo we can and need to.
grigg - ive got ellis in his spot but bought a id/for in knights into the team for him.
houli - well imo lennon is the way to go if we dont play houli back where do we play him. where do we play lennon with so many mature forwards newly drafted.
petterd - replaced by mcintosh  geez a 192 cm running player who defends well and can actually kick properly.
vikery -  while not replaced in the side his job as a ruckman is taken by hampson.  with vickery now doing mcguanes job that is stay at home kpf with no ruck duties.
newman - now i know it wont happen but for mine id rather now give games to the likes of genuine mids like arnot or helbig. the back half is coverd with numerous options.
a edwards - replaced by gordon. a 24yo forward who can actually form a part of midfield rotions. i say again we surely didnt take mature players just to have em rot in the magoos.
s edwards - well hes no mid imo and hes forced out by the likes of knights lloyd gordon.


finally i did a reserves side and the scary thing is the lack of what i would term GENUINE MIDS.  The lack of tall defenders.  the lack of real quality pushing thru. and the lack of development in our talls.
imo we need to improve a fair bit on about a third of regular players we wont become a top 4 bside until this happens.

[Stripes]

b/  morris - chaplin - grimes.
hb/ mcintosh - rance - lennon.

c/ ellis - martin - deledio
r/ maric - cotchin - vlastuin.

hf/ knights - riewoldt - gordon.
f/  lloyd - vickery - hampson.

int/ jackson - conca - foley - arnot.

I actually don't mind that team and understand your explanations for the changes I bolded above. I would like to see Gordon and Lennon in the team before the middle of the year. I would also add McBean to those two. The one thing I differ from you philosophically is how these three get in the team - I feel they need to earn their place and push out those established players. I don't think they should just be given a chance. I believe this creates healthy competition across every level.

Gordan will probably be the first played I feel in A.Edwards place or Kingy's if his form drops off. Lennon next but I believe he will be played as a sub first and then off a wing.

Houli is our number one defender delivering the ball our of defense. I believe he started more delivery chains ending in a scoring opportunity than any other player in our side. He is the first choice for kick outs too. With the ball in his hands we are a much cleaner team. He won't be making way for a new recruit.

Grigg's position is less secure but he still offers run and carry which we still need. He may be pushed into the sub position if Ellis, Lennon and Vlaustin into more prominent midfield roles and others take their current half back etc roles.

Newman has another year of security before he is moved on I feel. He still our leader and life blood.

King plays his role better than almost every other defensive forward. Until he begins to fail in this role and another can win his place he is safe. His attitude retain his place alone.

 

[torch]

B: Morris, Chaplin, Grimes

HB: Vlastuin, Rance, Houli

C: Deledio, Cotchin, Ellis

HF: Lennon, Riewoldt, Knights

F: A.Edwards, Vickery, McBean

R: Maric, Conca, Martin

I: Jackson, Hampson, Foley

S: Newman

E: Grigg, S.Edwards, King

 

[Phil Mrakov]

B: Morris, Chaplin, Grimes

HB: Vlastuin, Rance, Houli

C: Deledio, Cotchin, Ellis

HF: Lennon, Riewoldt, Knights

F: A.Edwards, Vickery, McBean

R: Maric, Conca, Martin

I: Jackson, Hampson, Foley

S: Newman

E: Grigg, S.Edwards, Kingb

 

Take the Edwards brothers out

[Hard Roar Tiger]

They're not brothers jm

[Phil Mrakov]

They're not brothers jm

Sorry my bad

[Hard Roar Tiger]

They're not brothers jm

Sorry my bad

 

[Diocletian]

In what I think are their best positions (mostly):

B: Morris, Chaplin, Grimes

HB: Vlastuin, Rance, Deledio

C: Arnot, Cotchin, Ellis

HF: Lennon, Riewoldt, Petterd

F: McDonough, Vickery, McBean

R: Maric, Conca, Martin

I: Jackson, Hampson, Houli

S: S. Edwards

Tempted to put in an upgraded Banfumbles just for his badly needed pace alone, would also love to find a spot for Darrou but he also needs to be elevated first. Have Arnot there because I rate him and we look a bit soft without him.

Would actually prefer Jack at FP - but I can't really see anyone else good enough to play permanent CHF at this stage.Cameron or bust 2016. Would play Vickery in Petterd's position if Griffith, Elton or even that Lloyd bloke finally come on.

[Judge Roughneck]

b/   grimes - chaplin - morris
hb/ conca -  rance - batchelor
c/   grigg  - tuck  - deledio
r/  maric - martin - cotchin
hf/ knights - griffiths - s edwards
f/ a  edwards  - riewoldt - vickery

int/ foley - ellis - helbig - pick 9 stringer. (Vlastuin)

depth nahas, houli, jackson, newman, king. arnott,

 

[Chuck17]

Same as last year

[Judge Roughneck]

Miles upgrade on tucky so that's a win.

The bolded areas IMO concern.

Lacking polish and pace in the back line.   Cooney maleski griffin O'Rourke Christiason frawley etc. Would of been Handy

Thankfully Nahas and king are gone. Sadly houli still viewed as un-droppable.

Funny to see claw include Vickery-griffiths-riewoldt-aedwards in same fwd line. Hopefully mcbean isngiven a go. Ditto arnot. Shame about helbig

[pmac21]

B    Chaplin     Astbury     Vlastuin
HB  Grimes       Rance      Batchelor
C    Houli        Cotchin     Conca
HF  Deledio     Griffiths    Martin
F    Vickery     Riewoldt    Edwards
R    Maric           Ellis        Miles
Int  Lennon  McDonough Foley
Sub Petterd

No room for Newy.   

[Yeahright]

That backline would not hold up IMO. Despite his flaws we need Morris back there to play on the dangerous smalls

[lamington]

b/   grimes - chaplin - morris
hb/ vlastuin -  rance - astbury
c/   Ellis  - Martin  - Conca
r/  maric - Miles - cotchin
hf/  Deledio - griffiths - s edwards
f/ gordon  - riewoldt - vickery

int/ foley - Houli/Grigg (can have one but not both) - Lennon - petterd

I'd like to squeeze the biscuit in there but he was only given 4 games this year and its hard to decide.


EDIT: adapted from Claw and yeah not a lot's changed.