What's our best 22 now?

[Stalin]

b     Grimes      Astbury     C Ellis
hb   Houli        Rance       Vlastuin
c    Edwards    Miles        Mcintosh
hf   Yarren    Riewoldt       Lennon
f     McBean    Deledio     Rioli
ob    Maric      Martin     Cotchin
   

Vickery
Conca
B Ellis
Townsend


 

[Stalin]

and for geelong

general patton 198cm he may not be 200cm but hes a ruckman.
boyd 200cm LOTS OF ????
mcbean 200cm  TO DATE A TOTAL DUD AS A TALL PLAYER
hogan 195cm AT 195CM HE DOESNT FIT THE CRITERIA.
hawkins 198cm AGAIN DOES NOT FIT THE CRITERIA.
pimples i presume the lad at essendon 201cm. Has done exactly what to date?

its clear as mud they are getting bigger, regardless of clawks 2 meter fetish

every position is getting larger / faster / more endurance

you have to be very good to make it as a little person

compare the size of the richmond history famous key forward and rucks to the current list

you  have to be exceptional to become a very good kpf at 200cm. No one is arguing players are getting taller but the cut of for quality kpfs remains at below 200cm.

You tell me, your after a kpf.  you have a quality kid at 195cm who could become a kpf and another at 200cm of similar talent. you have the info in front of you of just how many 200cm blokes become kpfs which one would you target.

of the four key forwards 200cm richmond has had on the books, since 1885

3 are currently on the list

what conclusions do you draw from that oh wise sage?

for the record, McBean, Vickery, Griffiths can all still potentially 'make it' as AFL standard key forwards. Maric goes alright in a pocket too

1885 IS A LONG TIME AGO SON Lol.  Your just like the rest revelling in mediocrity. So what are you saying here?  They can all still become okay players. I thought we we were talking about consistenly very good key fwds.
They are freakin bums show some common sense man.

So we get to the crux of it eh. your objection about my 200cm comments  is not about 200cm kpfs   but  the fact we have three on our list  and you cant bare the thought of them being duds.
Thats freakin funny ive heard it all now. Theres a better chance of pigs flying than all three becoming very good kpfs.

what do you make of richmond trying to draft Eric Hipwood, 200cm key forward / defender with 'pick 12' ? * - before pulling the trigger, eventually on young rioli


b mckay 198
h mckay 200
schache 198

all key forward-ish types, too, no ruckman in top 40 odd, just a bunch of guys around the 200 range in the first round ...

funny that

you may have to call for a new oecumenical council; with your ecclesiastical dignitaries are revisit some dogmatic principles   

[tony_montana]

I'm glad we didn't, I saw a lot of these 200cm types drafted yesterday, am very happy to revisit this thread in a few years to see if any of them look like going on to become dominant kpf's or ruck/Fwds

[Stalin]

I'm glad we didn't, I saw a lot of these 200cm types drafted yesterday, am very happy to revisit this thread in a few years to see if any of them look like going on to become dominant kpf's

i bet troy chaplin is too 

[tony_montana]

Touche 

[Penelope]

lol

[Yeahright]

b     Grimes      Chaplin     C Ellis
hb   Houli        Rance       Vlastuin
c    Grigg    Miles        Mcintosh
hf   Yarren    Riewoldt       Lennon
f     McBean    Deledio     Rioli
ob    Maric      Martin     Cotchin
   

Vickery
Conca
B Ellis
Edwards


 

EFA

[Stalin]

b     Grimes      Broad     C Ellis
hb   Houli        Rance       Vlastuin
c    Edwards    Miles        Mcintosh
hf   Yarren    Riewoldt       Lennon
f     McBean    Deledio     Rioli
ob    Maric      Martin     Cotchin
   

Vickery
Conca
B Ellis
Townsend

[one-eyed]

According to the AFL website ...

Your team's best 22 and depth for 2016

Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
November 28, 2015 3:01 PM

RICHMOND

BEST 22

B: Dylan Grimes, Troy Chaplin, Nick Vlastuin 
HB: Chris Yarran, Alex Rance, Bachar Houli
C: Brandon Ellis, Anthony Miles, Kamdyn McIntosh
HF: Brett Deledio, Jack Riewoldt, Dustin Martin
F: Ben Lennon, Ty Vickery, Shane Edwards
Foll: Ivan Maric, Trent Cotchin, Jacob Townsend
I/C: Corey Ellis, Shaun Grigg, Jake Batchelor, Ben Griffiths

DEPTH

Key-position defenders: David Astbury, Nathan Broad, Todd Elton
General defenders: Taylor Hunt, Steven Morris
Key-position forwards: Liam McBean, Reece McKenzie, Callum Moore*
General forwards: Sam Lloyd, Oleg Markov, Daniel Rioli
Midfielders: Dan Butler, Jason Castagna*, Reece Conca, Nathan Drummond, Kane Lambert, Adam Marcon*, Connor Menadue, Andrew Moore, Jayden Short*
Rucks: Mabior Chol*, Shaun Hampson, Ivan Soldo*

Recruit Jacob Townsend is selected ahead of Reece Conca because of his inside strengths and the fact he was recruited to play a specific role in support of Trent Cotchin and Anthony Miles. Townsend also forces Kane Lambert out of the team. In the backline Chris Yarran is selected on a stuff, where Richmond has stated it would like to play him. This gives the team two solid rebounding options. Nick Vlastuin is not expected to make a transition into the midfield in 2016 and remains a lockdown specialist in this 22, forcing Jake Batchelor (who is still required for height) on to the bench and the versatile Dylan Grimes to play tall. Corey Ellis is expected to entrench himself in the best 22 and Kamdyn McIntosh already has.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-28/your-teams-best-22-for-2016

[one-eyed]

Richmond's best 22 for 2016

Sarah Olle
FOX SPORTS
22 December 2015


RICHMOND’S BEST 22

B: Jake Batchelor, Alex Rance, Dylan Grimes

HB: Bachar Houli, Troy Chaplin, Nick Vlaustin

C: Brandon Ellis, Trent Cotchin, Chris Yarran

HF: Dustin Martin, Tyrone Vickery, Brett Deledio

F: Shane Edwards, Jack Riewoldt, Ben Griffiths

FOLL: Ivan Maric, Anthony Miles, Kane Lambert

I/C: Shaun Grigg, Reece Conca, Taylor Hunt, Kamdyn McIntosh

EMERGENCY: Ben Lennon, Sam Lloyd, Steve Morris


OTHERS: David Astbury, Nathan Broad, Daniel Butler, Nathan Drummond, Corey Ellis, Todd Elton, Oleg Markov, Liam McBean, Reece McKenzie, Connor Menadue, Andrew Moore, Shaun Hampson, Daniel Rioli, Jacob Townsend

ROOKIES: Jason Castagna, Mabior Chol, Adam Marcon, Callum Moore, Jayden Short, Ivan Soldo


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-tigers-best-22-2016-ben-griffiths-needs-luck-kamdyn-mcintosh-ready-to-shine-/news-story/baa8d59a0ddfa209f99716320fcfffac

[Stalin]

 

[Diocletian]

So she just copied the team from the EF and then replaced Newman with Yarran....hard gig this "journalism"...


...though it probably is the side Hardwick will pick come round one....

[WilliamPowell]

Would have Lennon in ahead of Lambert

[Willy]

Corey Ellis and Lennon in, Hunt and Conca out.

[Stalin]

Lambert and Lloyd are best 22

If everyone were fit ?