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Re: Tanking affair darkens for Dees ....... (Age)
« Reply #90 on: January 13, 2013, 04:25:56 PM »


Since when is a round 22 game between 9th and 15th when neither could make the finals called as a "vital" game :huh3

Well it was a vital game for us

Think it was vital at the time that we got Cotchin

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Just look at it now. Cotch is better than Kruez.

I want to shake Graham Polak's hand. The one that touched the ball first.

Proves Walla$$ is talking faeces again.

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Re: Tanking affair darkens for Dees ....... (Age)
« Reply #91 on: January 14, 2013, 05:06:47 PM »
What's wrong with this picture?



I have numbered each of the unmarked Tiger players in perfect position for a shot at goal prior to McMahon taking the mark. Look at all the Demons around the contest and yet the ball gets out????

Come on...There certainly was a different smell in poo town that day.

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Re: Tanking affair darkens for Dees ....... (Age)
« Reply #92 on: January 16, 2013, 12:30:29 PM »
Betstar's Alan Eskander says the AFL's draft system is flawed and needs to change

    Jay Clark
    From: Herald Sun
    January 15, 2013 11:30PM


A LEADING bookmaker has called on the AFL to adopt a draft lottery system to stamp out tanking.

Betstar's Alan Eskander says the league must follow the lead of basketball and ice hockey in the United States and abandon rules which give last placed clubs the prized first draft choice.

Melbourne officials Cameron Schwab and Chris Connolly and former coach Dean Bailey are facing life bans from the game over allegations the Demons set out to lose games in 2009.

But Eskander said the league is partly responsible for the Dees' crisis, given the massive carrot it dangled in front of clubs to finish last and qualify for an extra priority draft pick.

Eskander said it was time to integrate a draft system whereby clubs which miss finals enter a lottery to determine the draft order.

"The AFL put a lot of weight on what goes on in US sport, they do a lot of scouting missions and they follow a really strong precedent," Eskander said.

"If they came out next week and said we were going to adopt a model of US sport and go down a lottery path, I would embrace that.

"It has been fair and equitable and over a long period of time and testing in the US has shown there isn't any issues in relation to tanking.

"It is shown that it is motivating teams appropriately, rather than motivating them to lose in order to get picks."

The NBA draft lottery is a huge television event, drawing almost three million viewers last year to watch the allocation of draft picks.

The lottery is weighted so the team with the worst record has the best chance of obtaining higher draft picks.

The NBA process involves drawing ping pong balls and factors in thousands of possible combinations.

Eskander said the AFL was right to abolish the priority draft pick last year but said the system still needed improvement.

"The AFL has basically said the worse you are the more benefits you are going to get," Eskander said.

"At some stage they need to put their hand up as well and say 'we've contributed to this debacle, because the system we had in place was flawed'.

"It was fundamentally flawed in its motivations and how it motivated teams to perform.

"I have some sympathy for Melbourne because the AFL has played its part in this whole debacle."

Melbourne must respond to the AFL's 1000-page tanking investigation by January 29.

Eskander was pleased the AFL was investigating the matter seriously after playing down tanking allegations in the past.

"I was very alarmed and quite flabbergasted with the AFL's approach up until now, where they've just buried their head in the stand and said 'I don't know what you are talking about, tanking doesn't go on'," he said.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/betstars-alan-eskander-says-the-afls-draft-system-is-flawed-and-needs-to-change/story-e6frecm3-1226554594731

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Re: Tanking affair darkens for Dees ....... (Age)
« Reply #93 on: February 06, 2013, 11:31:00 AM »
Melbourne would be stoked this little doozy is flying under the radar  :shh

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Re: Tanking affair darkens for Dees ....... (Age)
« Reply #94 on: February 06, 2013, 08:37:11 PM »
Melbourne would be stoked this little doozy is flying under the radar  :shh

they would be doing this I reckon

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Re: Tanking affair darkens for Dees ....... (Age)
« Reply #95 on: February 07, 2013, 03:34:45 AM »
MELBOURNE faces the prospect of losing $5 million a year in poke r-machine revenue if the club is found guilty by the AFL of "tanking" allegations.

An adverse finding into the claims, the subject of an exhaustive AFL investigation, could also force the resignation of senior staff.

The Victorian Commission for Gambling and Liquor Regulation has the power to withdraw licences to operate electronic gaming machines and force the removal of key officials if it finds an organisation has acted inappropriately.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/tank-threat-to-melbournes-pokies-revenue/story-e6frf9jf-1226572049721

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Re: Tanking affair darkens for Dees ....... (Age)
« Reply #96 on: February 15, 2013, 07:22:59 PM »
They just mentioned on the nab cup football coverage that fines have been handed down.
They'll update later

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Re: Tanking affair darkens for Dees ....... (Age)
« Reply #97 on: February 15, 2013, 08:08:07 PM »
They just mentioned on the nab cup football coverage that fines have been handed down.
They'll update later


Its not official. They was just talking about a article Caro wrote which stats the fines and suspensions thats been handed done to melbourne.


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Re: Tanking affair darkens for Dees ....... (Age)
« Reply #98 on: February 15, 2013, 08:17:10 PM »
They just mentioned on the nab cup football coverage that fines have been handed down.
They'll update later


Its not official. They was just talking about a article Caro wrote which stats the fines and suspensions thats been handed done to melbourne.


Article is on the age website.


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MELBOURNE appears to have escaped draft penalties but faces a fine of $500,000 as the AFL investigation into tanking sparked by Brock McLean moved on Friday into the final stages of resolution.
Fairfax Media understands that Chris Connolly, the former football operations boss who in 2009 allegedly threatened staff with their jobs should the team win more than four games that season, will prove the only current Melbourne official suspended as a result of the six-month investigation.
The move to punish those involved in the strategy of 2009 marks the first time in the game's history that the AFL has acted in this fashion to stamp out potential tampering with match results

Dean Bailey, the senior coach in 2009, faces a short suspension from coaching of three months but even that penalty could involve some weeks suspended pending any future breach.
Melbourne chief executive Cameron Schwab has escaped any individual penalty. Schwab and Connolly last month were asked to show why they should not be charged on the two counts of bringing the game into disrepute and tampering with the draft.
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Melbourne has continued to deny it deliberately lost games of football in 2009 and engaged former Federal Court judge Ray Finkelstein to lead its defence. The club has privately vowed to fight any charges in court but could now accept its fate following weeks of negotiations with the AFL's acting football boss Gillon McLachlan.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/no-draft-penalties-likely-for-melbourne-20130215-2eia4.html#ixzz2KxRDKl7F




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Re: Tanking affair darkens for Dees ....... (Age)
« Reply #99 on: February 15, 2013, 09:23:47 PM »
weak as p!$$
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Re: Tanking affair darkens for Dees ....... (Age)
« Reply #100 on: February 15, 2013, 09:41:59 PM »
hahahahahahahahaha

thank god the drug debate is taken out of their hands because they are just a disgraceful organization.

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Re: Tanking affair darkens for Dees ....... (Age)
« Reply #101 on: February 15, 2013, 11:11:22 PM »
shameful decision, just disgraceful.

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Re: Tanking affair darkens for Dees ....... (Age)
« Reply #102 on: February 15, 2013, 11:41:24 PM »
Busted tanking for picks, don't get pick penalties

Makes sense  :huh

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Re: Tanking affair darkens for Dees ....... (Age)
« Reply #103 on: February 16, 2013, 03:58:14 PM »
Incentive for the better off teams to tank in future as their window closes, now the precedent of not losing points or draft picks has been set. Just get out the cheque book.

Weak as pee  >:(

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Re: Tanking affair darkens for Dees ....... (Age)
« Reply #104 on: February 16, 2013, 04:57:16 PM »
So what it comes down to is the AFL has basically fined itself

The hand Melb a fine but they give Melb a handout every year

All makes sense
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