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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #45 on: November 21, 2012, 07:25:47 PM »
I can say it easily!

If we didn't reduce debt by $1.5mil and hadn't contributed to the resurfacing of pro then the profit would have been probably $5mil plus! Take away say $3mil for the FTF and it would have been approx $2 mil profit....

Errrr no.... doesn't quite work like that

However, I'll play along ...so....

Using your figures the reduction in debt was funded by the FTF which is recorded in total revenues so right there our $3 mil profit becomes $1.5mil. As for the resurfacing of Punt Road which is costing another $1.5 which again is being funded by the FTF which comes out of total revenues then that wipes out the entire $3mil profit.

Simply using your logic and based on what we've told so far if you take out all monies rec'd from the FTF there is no profit  ;D

You are making an assumption that the cost of reducing the debt & resurfacing are expenses to the P&L which they are not, they are balance sheet transactions

I'm no accountant and am only assuming, but if you take away the FTF we might not have contributed to debt reduction and the resurfacing so couldn't you count it roughly even?

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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #46 on: November 21, 2012, 07:28:14 PM »
What is Carltons debt now?
It's a simple question (I know) and we can hide behind mirrors whilst chewing a stogie but what is the operating profit AFTER abnormal revenues are deducted?
You can add the $500k from the GC game as well.
Cause in 2014, we won't have that revenue
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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #47 on: November 21, 2012, 08:38:34 PM »
I can say it easily!

If we didn't reduce debt by $1.5mil and hadn't contributed to the resurfacing of pro then the profit would have been probably $5mil plus! Take away say $3mil for the FTF and it would have been approx $2 mil profit....

Errrr no.... doesn't quite work like that

However, I'll play along ...so....

Using your figures the reduction in debt was funded by the FTF which is recorded in total revenues so right there our $3 mil profit becomes $1.5mil. As for the resurfacing of Punt Road which is costing another $1.5 which again is being funded by the FTF which comes out of total revenues then that wipes out the entire $3mil profit.

Simply using your logic and based on what we've told so far if you take out all monies rec'd from the FTF there is no profit  ;D

You are making an assumption that the cost of reducing the debt & resurfacing are expenses to the P&L which they are not, they are balance sheet transactions

I'm no accountant and am only assuming, but if you take away the FTF we might not have contributed to debt reduction and the resurfacing so couldn't you count it roughly even?

Yep correct best case scenario

That's what I said with added sarcasm  ;D.

 Sugark said if we hadn't used the FTF monies to retire debt & reconfigure PRO our profit would have been $5 mil. Point I was trying to make was the cost of those 2 things don't impact on the P&L and if we didn't receive the $3mil in FTF pledges our profit basically disappears

Hence, why I reckon it is important to report our profit is from basic operations  ;D  :thumbsup

What is Carltons debt now?


As per their website it is now just under $6.5 mil they paid back $750k this year

See:
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/4311/newsid/151445/default.aspx

 ;D :laugh:

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It's a simple question (I know) and we can hide behind mirrors whilst chewing a stogie but what is the operating profit AFTER abnormal revenues are deducted?
You can add the $500k from the GC game as well.
Cause in 2014, we won't have that revenue

The Cairns game cannot be called anabnormal revenue item yellowandblack because it is a match day receipt. Granted more than we'd make in Melb but a match receipt none the less. While we wont get that $ amount after 2013 we will still receive something of a similar nature hence why it Cairns can't be classified as "abnormal"

But I certainly get your point and it's a good one
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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #48 on: November 21, 2012, 08:52:58 PM »
I thought Carltank's debt was 10 mil
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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #49 on: November 21, 2012, 08:56:19 PM »
I thought Carltank's debt was 10 mil

Only going by what's on their website. Had a quick look at their accounts but got bored and stopped  ;D

Don't care one way or another to be honest  :rollin they're in debt, made a loss because of poor management, poor decisions and an ordinary board.. All well deservedc ;D
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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2012, 09:08:59 PM »
I thought Carltank's debt was 10 mil

Only going by what's on their website. Had a quick look at their accounts but got bored and stopped  ;D

Don't care one way or another to be honest  :rollin they're in debt, made a loss because of poor management, poor decisions and an ordinary board.. All well deservedc ;D

Hope they declare bankruptcy
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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2012, 09:22:51 PM »
Brisbane has made a $2.5m operating loss. They've effectively lost close to $10m over the past 5 years :o.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/151467/default.aspx


2012 AFL CLUB FINANCIAL RESULTS

Richmond: $3,017,742 profit

Hawthorn: $2,023,720 profit

North Melbourne: $1,193,080 operating profit

Carlton:  $683,799 loss

Brisbane:  $2,513,262 net operating loss
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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #52 on: November 21, 2012, 10:11:42 PM »
Brisbane has made a $2.5m operating loss. They've effectively lost close to $10m over the past 5 years :o.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/151467/default.aspx


2012 AFL CLUB FINANCIAL RESULTS

Richmond: $3,017,742 profit

Hawthorn: $2,023,720 profit

North Melbourne: $1,193,080 operating profit

Carlton:  $683,799 loss

Brisbane:  $2,513,262 net operating loss
Kangas made a profit???
How can this be?

If they're making a million we should be making 10million.
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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #53 on: November 22, 2012, 07:08:17 PM »
North Melbourne: $1,193,080 operating profit

Kangas made a profit???
How can this be?


Same way as us I think, fundraising from members.

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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #54 on: November 23, 2012, 03:50:11 PM »
Essendon has posted a trading profit of $401,429.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/151640/default.aspx

2012 AFL CLUB FINANCIAL RESULTS

Richmond: $3,017,742 profit

Hawthorn: $2,023,720 profit

North Melbourne: $1,193,080 operating profit

Essendon:  $401,429 profit

Carlton:     $683,799 loss

Brisbane:  $2,513,262 net operating loss

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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #55 on: November 23, 2012, 03:52:37 PM »
Essendon has posted a trading profit of $401,429.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/151640/default.aspx

2012 AFL CLUB FINANCIAL RESULTS

Richmond: $3,017,742 profit

Hawthorn: $2,023,720 profit

North Melbourne: $1,193,080 operating profit

Essendon:  $401,429 profit

Carlton:     $683,799 loss

Brisbane:  $2,513,262 net operating loss

They also had 9mil in membership rev vs our 5
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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #56 on: November 23, 2012, 03:59:48 PM »
They also had 9mil in membership rev vs our 5
IIRC Bomber fans had to purchase a reserve seat with their game-entry membership this year.

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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #57 on: November 23, 2012, 04:15:30 PM »
They also had 9mil in membership rev vs our 5
IIRC Bomber fans had to purchase a reserve seat with their game-entry membership this year.

We should do it too !
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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #58 on: November 24, 2012, 01:12:24 PM »
They also had 9mil in membership rev vs our 5
IIRC Bomber fans had to purchase a reserve seat with their game-entry membership this year.

correct.

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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #59 on: November 24, 2012, 01:56:23 PM »
They also had 9mil in membership rev vs our 5
IIRC Bomber fans had to purchase a reserve seat with their game-entry membership this year.

correct.

that revenue gap represents a major competitive advantage for Essendon over ourselves. That needs to be looked at by our club and maybe we need to respond. Now I know we play at MCG and anybody can get a seat but $4 million is major advantage that needs to clawed back if we can.