Cotchin's captaincy [merged]

[Stalin]

Good to see we are sticking to topic....this thread is so derailed its in the drink!!

In short , it's a token gesture.

The squibs will still squib.

The problem is not chimp. That's a hint.

[Petey]

Good to see we are sticking to topic....this thread is so derailed its in the drink!!

Whaaaaaat WAT?
Awesome thread, loved page 5 - it was an old fashioned shoot out.
Stuffing love the off season, if only Peg was Jewish and Gay

In before Go Richo 12 declares 'Gay' people a race.

 

[Francois Jackson]

How often do presidents actually do anything anyway?

newbold goes allright. Kennett before him. Speaks well and im sure they played a role in that $1 waverley deal

dingley to come.

I actually like the hawthorn/american model on and off the field. Once your time is up your out, fresh man comes in.

[Petey]

1 dollar is poo

[mightytiges]

The days of the captain being the be all and end all of onfield leadership is long gone. Like all other areas within footy, onfield leadership requires depth in leadership which we sadly lack. If a number of our formally appointed leaders are held then it's usually good night nurse as no one else steps up (see Elim Finals x3). Would having Jack as captain made a difference in this year's Elim. Final when he (and Rance) played well anyway yet we still lost? Nup! Would Brad Scott have changed his tactic of tagging Cotch and Lids out of the game if they weren't captain and v/capt? Nup again!

Hawthorn are successful because they ooze onfield leadership. Roughy, Burgoyne, Lewis, Birchall,  Rioli, etc are just as important onfield leadership wise to them as Hodge and Mitchell. In big games and the finals that count, they don't leave it to the same few to set the gameday mode of the whole team. In another thread, I mentioned we needed our younger core who have been around 4 or so years to step up as onfield leaders for us to take the next step. Flossy would be the only one who shows leadership qualities from that group so far. That's clearly not good enough. 2016 is a massive year for our younger core.

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To call it lack of leadership is a simple explanation for a list full of introverts.

It's a lack of will within the individual.

It's nothing else

[Andyy]

I don't think Cotchin has the mongrel in him to be a premiership captain.

He's tough enough, brave enough, hell he's even a decent player. Just not 'unsociable' enough. You want a captain who can be dangerous without the football...

[Stalin]

To call it lack of leadership is a simple explanation for a list full of introverts.

It's a lack of will within the individual.

It's nothing else

Hannibal would struggle to led some of  Dimmas mates

[one-eyed]

Jack Riewoldt says Trent Cotchin is the right man to captain Richmond

JON RALPH
Herald Sun
March 6, 2016 6:00pm

JACK Riewoldt says Richmond must expand its group of on-field leaders at Punt Road, adamant Trent Cotchin is the right man to captain the Tigers.

Former Richmond assistant coach David King believes Cotchin should be replaced as captain, arguing Riewoldt is a superior leader of men.

But Riewoldt said at the Tigers family day on Sunday he would continue to act as an on-field leader despite not being in the five-man leadership group.

“There’s more commentary on that than the presidential election at the moment,” Riewoldt said.

“For us, we’ve got a really strong leadership group. My role is to continue to lead the forward line and lead outside of that group, trying to help relay the messages the leaders want to put onto the group.

“I don’t think having a title or not having a title pigeonholes you as having that respect from your peer. Certainly the group values my leadership and I value guys who aren’t in the leadership as well.”

Riewoldt had one of his finest seasons for the Tigers last year, not only improving his second efforts but also his on-field body language.

Players naturally gravitate to the star key forward, who signed a long-term deal halfway through last year to stay at the Tigers.

But he believes every Richmond player must take another step if the club is to win its first final since 2001.

Cotchin admits he is an intense, driven character who does not regularly socialise with his teammates, but he remains the club’s best leader.

“What (Cotchin) brings to our group is really strong character,’’ Riewoldt said.

“He’s improved his on-field leadership, his training, he’s his harshest critic.

“I don’t think Trent was on his own in terms of having a bad result (in last year’s elimination final loss). There are a lot of guys who would say they were poor against North Melbourne.

“You don’t just have one bloke out there dragging us over the line, it requires multiple senior players, whether they be leaders or not. We need to lead as 45 guys and that’s what the best sides do.”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/jack-riewoldt-says-trent-cotchin-is-the-right-man-to-captain-richmond/news-story/14e3b5620089f2b80b784685dcfc5d73

[one-eyed]

Riewoldt OK to be trumped in leadership 'race'

AFL website
March 6, 2016 1:26 PM


RICHMOND forward Jack Riewoldt says he doesn't need to be in the Tigers' leadership group to have the respect of his peers and he will continue to be an unofficial leader at Tigerland.

Riewoldt was again left out of Richmond's leadership group ahead of this season, despite external suggestions he should even replace Trent Cotchin as captain.

The 27-year-old has repeatedly defended Cotchin as captain and did so again on Sunday, saying he would continue happily in his role as an unofficial leader of the forward line in 2016.

"There's more commentary on that than the presidential election at the moment," Riewoldt joked.

"For us, we've got a really strong leadership group (and) my role is to continue to lead the forward line and lead outside of that group, trying to help relay the messages the leaders want to put onto the group.

"I don't think having a title or not having a title pigeon holes you as having that respect from your peers … certainly the group values my leadership and I value guys who aren't in the leadership as well."

Richmond made two changes to its leadership group in January, replacing Troy Chaplin and Steven Morris with club champion Alex Rance and Shane Edwards. Veterans Brett Deledio and Ivan Maric remain joint vice-captains.

Riewoldt said the Tigers needed more leaders from outside that group to help take the pressure off Cotchin, who was exposed to criticism because of a poor performance in the Tigers' elimination final defeat against North Melbourne. 

"What he (Cotchin) brings to our group is really strong character … he's improved his on-field leadership, his training, he's his harshest critic," Riewoldt said.

"I don't think Trent was on his own in terms of having a bad result … there are a lot of guys who would say they were poor against North Melbourne.

"You don't just have one bloke out there dragging us over the line, it requires multiple senior players, whether they be leaders or not. We need to lead as 45 guys and that's what the best sides do."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-06/jack-riewoldt-happy-to-be-trumped-in-richmond-leadership-race

[WilliamPowell]

Memo to Jon Ralph it wasnt the "Family Day" clubs isn't having one

It was open training  session that only had 500 people showed up to

Big difference 

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 Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.

Why?

In the two weeks he's been absent, the Tigers played a better brand of football for 7 out of 8 quarters.

What was missing?

Confusion, dinky kicks to nobody, easy get stats out the back from stoppage kicks that go nowhere....
 .

What came back?

Confidence, Leadership, a flowing style of play, a happier, more settled team.
Guys like Miles playing their own game,

Who should be Captain?
Lids, Rance or rotate it for the remainder of the season.
Guys like Grimes, Miles, Jack, Dusty, Vlaustin, Titch, Lambert.
Give Rioli a crack once he can run a game out.

It's live development and far more bonding project than anything they have going on down there currently.

Cotchin would best serve the club and himself by standing down and getting back to being a great footballer.

That's how it is.

Discuss

[🏅Dooks]

Look, the automatic instinct is to dismiss this two week data set as coincidental.

But, when you think about it in a considered and measured manner, there's certainly a fair bit of merit involved.

Questions should be asked.

[(•))(©™]

Wel about berating Cotchin.Its about fixing the problem

[🏅Dooks]

Might be a case of letting the onfield leaders doing their chirping and organising and Cotch just shutting the hell up.

Then at the end of the year manage the situation and transition the leadership over.