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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #270 on: May 16, 2016, 09:49:53 PM »
Big Bad Benny Griffo for captain!  Every time he kicks 5, we win!    :clapping
Besides, that helmet just exudes leadership!  You'd have to be captain to wear a helmet like that ...    :P
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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #271 on: May 16, 2016, 09:58:03 PM »

Good player, says all the right things, looks like a boy scout to the rest of the world.

Clearly can't captain for $h!+. Was a far better player beforehand. I'm not even convinced a lot of his team mates respect him all that much.


Interesting take especially considering the players elected him captain so it's hard to imagine the majority don't respect him

Having said IMESHO i think being captain has become detrimental to his game. And that's why I look at making a change

Though I cannot see him relinquishing it on his accord

I did hear a controversial rumour that he wasn't nevessarily first pick in the off season by players but this was overruled by the coach.
Who really knows.....,
It hasn't made him a better player but then again it didn't make Chris Newman better either.,,,
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #272 on: May 16, 2016, 10:00:10 PM »

Good player, says all the right things, looks like a boy scout to the rest of the world.

Clearly can't captain for $h!+. Was a far better player beforehand. I'm not even convinced a lot of his team mates respect him all that much.


Interesting take especially considering the players elected him captain so it's hard to imagine the majority don't respect him

Having said IMESHO i think being captain has become detrimental to his game. And that's why I look at making a change

Though I cannot see him relinquishing it on his accord

I did hear a controversial rumour that he wasn't nevessarily first pick in the off season by players but this was overruled by the coach.
Who really knows.....,
It hasn't made him a better player but then again it didn't make Chris Newman better either.,,,

That sounds like hardwick
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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #273 on: May 16, 2016, 10:12:53 PM »
There's no doubt in my mind that Cotch can't handle the pressure of captaincy, this was highlighted early this year when his wife chimed in with her two cents, which proves the negativity was effecting him at home. Clearly this highlights that he can't remove himself from the pressures associated with being Captain let alone being captain of a team like Richmond.

This club needs a stoic leader. Do we have one? I'm not completely sure.

I suspect that either Lids or Rance may have this quality.
Lids seems to led by example and has matured. After watching Rances interview immediately after the game there's no doubt how much he loves the club and he's rarely beaten. Either of these two are a better option the the Dinky Kick King.

Then there's Jack. He's a man possessed out on the field. Doesn't crack a smile and completely in the zone. I'd think he'd be a great captain. DUMMA said he had to fix up some "off field issues" whatever that means, but I also think Dumma is an idiot.

Anyway it's not a big deal to relinquish the captaincy. Sam Mitchell was captain from 2008-2010 and was man enough to hand over to someone who was more suited in Hodge, all this after being a premiership captain too. It hasn't done anything but better both the team and his own game ever since.

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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #274 on: May 16, 2016, 10:15:43 PM »
Lids

Can still take his game to higher  level

 
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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #275 on: May 16, 2016, 10:34:41 PM »
Hmmm let's see....no Cotchin - 8 goal loss to a Hawthorn side missing Mitchell that had just been flogged the week before & a win after the siren over the Swans, who, in the previous fortnight, had to cheat to beat Brisbane by less than a kick & took over a half to shake off the Essendon rejects at home and lost Kennedy just before the match on a ground they play shyte at more often than not, with our two best defenders back, who haven't both been on the ground together since we had one win from one match and were leading Collingwood.


Yes, overwhelming & damning evidence against the captain right there.....

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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #276 on: May 16, 2016, 10:41:41 PM »
Look, the automatic instinct is to dismiss this two week data set as coincidental.

But, when you think about it in a considered and measured manner, there's certainly a fair bit of merit involved.

Questions should be asked.

Got belted vs hawthorn

Won when rance and grimes returned ...

What's stopping jack rance deledio and that doing leadership when Cotchin is playing?

Not wanting to disrespect the hierarchy? Who knows
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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #277 on: May 16, 2016, 10:43:29 PM »
There's no doubt in my mind that Cotch can't handle the pressure of captaincy, this was highlighted early this year when his wife chimed in with her two cents, which proves the negativity was effecting him at home. Clearly this highlights that he can't remove himself from the pressures associated with being Captain let alone being captain of a team like Richmond.

Shrewd assessment.Right.


This club needs a stoic leader. Do we have one? I'm not completely sure.

Which is why a rotational situation would be ideal.

I suspect that either Lids or Rance may have this quality.
Lids seems to led by example and has matured. After watching Rances interview immediately after the game there's no doubt how much he loves the club and he's rarely beaten. Either of these two are a better option the the Dinky Kick King.

Lids has matured. I'm not meaning as a footballer but rather a man. It's called fatherhood.


Then there's Jack. He's a man possessed out on the field. Doesn't crack a smile and completely in the zone. I'd think he'd be a great captain. DUMMA said he had to fix up some "off field issues" whatever that means, but I also think Dumma is an idiot.

Lol. Dimmer is an idiot.
I think Jack is best left to pretend he is the captain out there.



Anyway it's not a big deal to relinquish the captaincy. Sam Mitchell was captain from 2008-2010 and was man enough to hand over to someone who was more suited in Hodge, all this after being a premiership captain too. It hasn't done anything but better both the team and his own game ever since.

I would back Cotchin to be as much a man as Mitchell was in his instance.
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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #278 on: May 16, 2016, 10:44:14 PM »
Interesting, I think valid, a question for the gurus, Morris out, cotch in playing out of defence, leave floss in the guts, discuss?
Cotch would get a break from the taggers if he played back pocket.

Or we could just make our midfield even stronger by having them both in there....with the worst case scenario being that one gets a free run while the other is tagged....
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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #279 on: May 16, 2016, 10:44:25 PM »

Good player, says all the right things, looks like a boy scout to the rest of the world.

Clearly can't captain for $h!+. Was a far better player beforehand. I'm not even convinced a lot of his team mates respect him all that much.


Interesting take especially considering the players elected him captain so it's hard to imagine the majority don't respect him

Having said IMESHO i think being captain has become detrimental to his game. And that's why I look at making a change

Though I cannot see him relinquishing it on his accord

I did hear a controversial rumour that he wasn't nevessarily first pick in the off season by players but this was overruled by the coach.
Who really knows.....,
It hasn't made him a better player but then again it didn't make Chris Newman better either.,,,

Well ill just say this. Players were given votes 3,2,1 and by lower increments Cotch (just) won.

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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #280 on: May 16, 2016, 10:45:57 PM »


What's stopping jack rance deledio and that doing leadership when Cotchin is playing?

Obviously the presence of one man.

Having said that, Rance is always on
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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #281 on: May 16, 2016, 10:46:56 PM »
If Towers looks to his right with 50 seconds to go, this thread doesn't even get thought of and the posts in the Lloyd thread are far less complimentary about his game as a whole....... :shh
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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #282 on: May 16, 2016, 10:50:43 PM »
Interesting, I think valid, a question for the gurus, Morris out, cotch in playing out of defence, leave floss in the guts, discuss?
Cotch would get a break from the taggers if he played back pocket.

Or we could just make our midfield even stronger by having them both in there....with the worst case scenario being that one gets a free run while the other is tagged....

Miles or martin to the backline then?
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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #283 on: May 16, 2016, 10:53:55 PM »
Why do any of them have to go back there when Cotchin returns?

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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #284 on: May 16, 2016, 10:56:14 PM »
I think you can only play 3 at once
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