Cotchin's captaincy [merged]

[unplugged]

Exactly the same.

Performance was similar in the first final against Carlton whereby Richmond played a half.

But the last two finals have not been remotely similar.

Deledio:
North:  10k 7h - 1 goal.  17 Disposals.   3rd highest Richmond player.
Port:    12k 17h - 1 goal.  29 Disposals.  Highest ranked player for either side in this match.

Cotchin: 
North      3k 6h  9 Disposals.  Ranked 39.
Port:       9k 7h. 16 Disposals Ranked 31.

Factor in that one of Deledio's possessions is worth 3 of Cotchin's sideways running, chip chip kicks and hospital handballs and the gap widens.

Cotchin is just another of Hardwick's sycophants.  There can be no other explanation for him being given the captaincy before he was ready and then keeping it while he has continued to fail to perform when it matters and he continues to pick and choose when he will have a crack.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Deledio might have had 17 possessions against North but they had no influence on the contest at all. He even missed short easy targets.

Cotchin was ranked 3rd best on ground against Carlton in SC and DT from memory.

I'm not saying Cotch is a good captain but both he and Lids have similar performances in finals overall. Also neither deals well with a tag.

[lamington]

that's not entirely true. Kane Cornes tried to tag Deledio a couple of years ago and Lids ran rings around him 

[Dougeytherichmondfan]

On field on only half the job of a captain, and few of us (if any) can comment for Cotchins off field efforts, but from what I understand he's head and shoulders above Lids.

Jack is probably the only other candidate for mine at the moment, and honestly I think it might suit Jack better. He's actually got a great head on his shoulders, very intelligent and insightful. My question is, would the boys play for him?

[big tone]

that's not entirely true. Kane Cornes tried to tag Deledio a couple of years ago and Lids ran rings around him 

Unfortunately the fact that you remember it tells us all he fails most times when being tagged. Lids has been a jet but most coaches know if you put a hard tag on him he crumbles like a biscuit.

[tony_montana]

true ^^ which is why Ive always felt his best position is HF, as a leadup/hitup mobile fwd hes almost unstoppable and a lot more damaging to boot. Can get tagged out of games too easily in midfield and even at HB

[lamington]

I don't get this talk about players not coping well with a hard tag. We saw it tonight, Sam Mitchell was crap tonight with Tom Mitchell as a hard tag. Cotchin struggles also. Lenny Hayes in the GF got pantsed when Bartel tagged him. Dangerfield got tagged by Vince last year and he struggled also. Selwood was tagged all year last year and they missed the top 8

The reality is most players can't cope with a hard tag. Seriously in recent times probably Pendlebury, Ablett, and Judd are the only players who can break a tag.

The whole point is when one of your guns gets tagged the "untagged" rises and carries the team over.

[🏅Dooks]

Exactly the same.

Performance was similar in the first final against Carlton whereby Richmond played a half.

But the last two finals have not been remotely similar.

Deledio:
North:  10k 7h - 1 goal.  17 Disposals.   3rd highest Richmond player.
Port:    12k 17h - 1 goal.  29 Disposals.  Highest ranked player for either side in this match.

Cotchin: 
North      3k 6h  9 Disposals.  Ranked 39.
Port:       9k 7h. 16 Disposals Ranked 31.

Factor in that one of Deledio's possessions is worth 3 of Cotchin's sideways running, chip chip kicks and hospital handballs and the gap widens.

Cotchin is just another of Hardwick's sycophants.  There can be no other explanation for him being given the captaincy before he was ready and then keeping it while he has continued to fail to perform when it matters and he continues to pick and choose when he will have a crack.

This is how i feel about Cotch.

Thats not to say there arent other more pressing list issues. But, you know.

[Yeahright]

I don't get this talk about players not coping well with a hard tag. We saw it tonight, Sam Mitchell was crap tonight with Tom Mitchell as a hard tag. Cotchin struggles also. Lenny Hayes in the GF got pantsed when Bartel tagged him. Dangerfield got tagged by Vince last year and he struggled also. Selwood was tagged all year last year and they missed the top 8

The reality is most players can't cope with a hard tag. Seriously in recent times probably Pendlebury, Ablett, and Judd are the only players who can break a tag.

The whole point is when one of your guns gets tagged the "untagged" rises and carries the team over.

Notice how you have to think of specific times it did work for all those players? It's because most of the time it doesn't work. But for Deledio instead we find ourselves thinking of specific times it didn't

[mightytiges]

Cotch was excellent tonight.

[Stalin]

 

[Chuck17]

Quite a few silly looking people tonight

[camboon]

Led like a true leader

[one-eyed]

Cotchin back with a bang

Skipper Trent Cotchin illustrated just how important he is for Richmond with an outstanding return. In his comeback from a two-week layoff after fracturing his cheekbone in round six, Cotchin gathered a career-high 39 disposals, including 18 contested possessions, and 10 clearances. Donning a black protective helmet, the 26-year-old provided a touch of class and shone amid the shocking conditions to be best on ground. He turned it on with a wonderful third quarter in which he had 14 disposals as Fremantle launched a challenge with the breeze at their backs.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-21/five-talking-points-fremantle-v-richmond

Trent Cotchin is tough. The Richmond skipper has copped plenty of criticism this year. But if ever there was a game for him to be cautious it was in a wet and windy game when he was still recovering from a fractured cheekbone. Cotchin wore a helmet and put his head over the ball. He finished with 39 disposals and seven tackles.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/afl/a/31667118/five-things-we-learnt-tigers/

[Jackstar 1960]

Quite a few silly looking people tonight

Plenty of silly posters here
They will be screaming for Ivan to be brought back in next week 😉😜