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Re: Cotchin named Captain
« Reply #45 on: November 25, 2012, 02:28:20 PM »
If the rfc captain wore 17 since 1904, traditional.

If since 2004, steaming pile of poo.

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Re: Cotchin named Captain
« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2012, 03:06:49 PM »
If they wanted to make a tradition of it they should have given the captiancy too a half decent player back in 04. I reckon they trying to beat up a poo side by bringing Dyer into it.

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Re: Cotchin named Captain
« Reply #47 on: November 25, 2012, 06:34:36 PM »
If the rfc captain wore 17 since 1904, traditional.

If since 2004, steaming pile of poo.

WD cotchin.

So no sporting traditon is a tradition if it is less than 100 years old then? Or is 30 years

Or does the logic only apply to the RFC

I didn't ask just about the RFC number 17 side of things I asked about all sports

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Re: Cotchin named Captain
« Reply #48 on: November 27, 2012, 04:34:11 PM »
Cotchin youngest in a century
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Tue 27 Nov, 2012


Trent Cotchin has become the youngest Richmond captain in more than 100 years...

Cotchin, who was officially appointed to the post late last week, will be 22 years and 355 days old when he leads the Tiger team out for the 2013 opening round clash with Carlton at the MCG.

Only Billy Schmidt, who captained the Tigers in the 1910 season, was younger than Cotchin, when he led the team out for the first time.

Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/151782/default.aspx

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Re: Cotchin named Captain
« Reply #49 on: November 27, 2012, 11:07:29 PM »
If the rfc captain wore 17 since 1904, traditional.

If since 2004, steaming pile of poo.

WD cotchin.

So no sporting traditon is a tradition if it is less than 100 years old then? Or is 30 years

Or does the logic only apply to the RFC

I didn't ask just about the RFC number 17 side of things I asked about all sports
i think if Cotchin had chosen to wear number 17 it probably would have become a tradition. But the 3 captains to wear it were Campbell in his last year of captaincy and well past his prime, plus suga and newly, both working class captains at best. Not really the stuff of legends (or establishing traditions). I'm glad Cotch canned it now, never been a fan of the idea.

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Richmond's Chris Newman lauds captain Trent Cotchin for setting the tone against West Coast

    Bruce Matthews
    From: Herald Sun
    June 04, 2013 2:55PM


RICHMOND'S veteran defender Chris Newman lauded his captain successor Trent Cotchin for setting the trend that delivered the thumping win against West Coast last night.

Newman said the challenge now for the Tigers was to refresh during this week's bye and be ready to reproduce the form that overwhelmed the Eagles in Perth.

"We always knew it was going to be a challenge, West Coast and their midfield are very, very good. And, to our midfielders credit, they were fantastic,'' Newman said.

"From the top our captain (Trent Cotchin) was fantastic, he really led the way. And Nick Vlastuin looks like he's going to be a very good footballer for this club. Across the board (the effort) was very good.

"It was certainly the best game we've played this year and the challenge now is to back it up after the break, after a good spell.

"It was important coming off the game last week (loss to Essendon) when we were really disappointed the way we went about it. I guess, we were just keen to get back to playing our brand of football, tough hard, Richmond football. And now that we've got the break, it's a matter of freshening up and trying to use that momentum going into the second half of the year.''

The Tigers plans to negate West Coast ruckmen Dean Cox and Nic Naitanui and then feed off them worked perfectly to also silence the home fans.

"When you go and play West Coast with Cox and Naitanui, you almost concede the hitouts. So the midfielders knew they had to fight and scrap and win that contested footy when it hit the ground. To Ivan's (Maric) and Ty's (Vickery) credit, they really fought hard to make sure they didn't get a lot of clean hitouts,'' Newman said.

The Tigers group happily endured the "red-eye" flight home in the early hours this morning before heading to their Punt Road Oval headquarters for the recovery.

"It's just a good feeling to go away together, get the points and come back. That's how we want to play, anyway. It's getting back to the way we want to play,'' Newman said.

"Whenever we go away together, we just seem to gel. One of the boys threw up a suggestion of maybe stay in a hotel the night before a game when we play in Melbourne just to get together.

"It's really important for the group to freshen up, reload and start again. We've got country visits tomorrow all over Victoria and then we'll have a couple of days off and the weekend. It's just a mental freshener, we still have a program to keep the fitness in our legs when we come back.

"There's no doubt it's a different team and very exciting. To have the younger boys coming in and contributing is where you want to be.

"At this stage, we probably don't have any right to be talking about finals. We played a good game, but the challenge now is to string those together.

"Good teams play consistent footy, they play their brand every week and that's what we're striving for and pick that up after the break.''

Newman said Brandon Ellis and Reece Conca are expected to be available for the Tigers next match against Adelaide at the MCG in round 12.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond8217s-chris-newman-lauds-captain-trent-cotchin-for-setting-the-tone-against-west-coast/story-fndv8t7m-1226657100650

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Captain Cotchin can't do it all for Tigers - Rohan Connolly (Age)
« Reply #52 on: April 07, 2014, 04:26:08 PM »
Richmond's senior men need to step-up and support their captain, senior AFL writer Rohan Connolly reports.

VIDEO: http://media.theage.com.au/sport/afl-real-footy/captain-cotchin-cant-do-it-all-5329321.html


Trent Cotchin can't do it all for Tigers
Rohan Connolly
     The Age
    April 7, 2014


Much has changed at Richmond over the last five years. A notoriously volatile club is well run and stable. The financial situation is healthier and membership at an all-time high. And as a team, the Tigers have higher aspirations.

Which is why already the pressure is again building at Punt Road, Richmond standing 1-2, and with a run over the next month taking in Collingwood, Brisbane Lions (away), Hawthorn and Geelong, in very real danger of slipping to 2-5 or even worse.

The Tigers are a far more capable side than they used to be, good enough to have finished last season just half-a-game away from a top-four spot. But one chronic flaw doesn’t appear that much closer to being addressed.

It’s leadership, and on-field at least, there’s still a chronic paucity of it. Where once upon a time it was former champion spearhead Matthew Richardson who seemingly had to carry much of the physical and spiritual load, the only change seems to have been the No.12 being replaced by a No.9.

Richmond captain Trent Cotchin couldn’t have done any more so far this season. He’s arguably been his side’s best player in its three games. But where’s the support coming from?

It’s not like the Tigers are still a bunch of greenhorns. They rank mid-table now in both the average age and games experience categories. But there’s another statistic which says plenty also about Richmond’s dearth of cool, wise and experienced heads come crunch time in games.


The loss of Saturday’s thriller against the Western Bulldogs after the Tigers had got to the front with just over three minutes remaining was the 12th time since the start of 2012 that Richmond has been involved in a game with a margin of 10 points or less. It has won just three of them.

Neither do the Tigers make a habit of clawing back deficits. The vast bulk, if not all, of their recent wins have been on the back of good starts or at least remaining within a kick or two of their opponent.

There can’t be many better indicators that this is a side which jumps on board for the ride but doesn’t have nearly enough prepared to knuckle down to either drag their team back into a contest or hang on to a hard-won lead.

Brett Deledio’s absence on Saturday left an obvious void in that respect. But what of the other Richmond senior men? Because while there’s continued focus on Jack Riewoldt, he’s far from the only culprit on this count. Jack’s first half was diabolical, but at least his second nearly won Richmond the game.

Richmond had eight 100-game-plus players in the line-up against the Bulldogs. How many exerted a real influence, either in terms of numbers or at least a physical presence?

Former skipper Chris Newman and Jake King had 17 touches between them. Troy Chaplin, Shaun Grigg and Shane Edwards each had only 13. The next most experienced were Bachar Houli and Ty Vickery, the former quiet, the latter again following up a good game with a poor one.

There’s certainly not a lot of aggression about this Richmond, either. Much of the grunt factor so far this season has been provided by former Port Adelaide on-baller Matt Thomas, picked up as a rookie lister for depth and only promoted to the senior list days before round one.

In attack, while King provides plenty of bluster, his material returns are more questionable, and in defence Chaplin, Houli, David Astbury and Dylan Grimes are hardly physical types. The numbers will say the Tigers ended up winning both the contested ball and the clearances against the Bulldogs, but this is as much about body language, demeanour and the little one per-centers not necessarily picked up on the stats sheet.

Captain Cotchin, meantime, is having to do it all. He’s not only ranked No.1 at Punt Road for disposals after three games, but both contested and uncontested possession, goal assists and inside 50s.

It was nearly enough against the Bulldogs, whose midfield unit is still young and improving. Against the on-ball divisions of the likes of the Magpies, Hawks and Cats, Richmond will get spanked if the skipper again has to play a lone hand.

Daniel Jackson might be a best and fairest winner, but his support for the captain isn’t necessarily going to be game-changing. Deledio will obviously make a big difference, and Dustin Martin, not for the first time, needs to aspire to the minute-by-minute consistency of his captain.

But less than a month into the new football year, Friday night suddenly shapes as a critical assignment for Richmond.  Its opponent has the same win-loss record, but at least knows after Saturday night’s loss to Geelong that its entire performance doesn’t revolve around its own skipper, Scott Pendlebury.

The Tigers certainly can’t claim that at the moment. And know that as things stand, if Collingwood does manage to pull down the shutters on Cotchin, it will be as good as game over.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/trent-cotchin-cant-do-it-all-for-tigers-20140406-zqrif.html#ixzz2yBAWqQ29

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Re: Captain Cotchin can't do it all for Tigers - Rohan Connolly (Age)
« Reply #53 on: April 09, 2014, 03:14:18 AM »
Even our votes so far in our OER Tiger of the Year award reflect that others other than Cotch need to step up.

Leaderboard after Round 3

Cotchin   67
Thomas  18
Griffiths  14
Deledio   12
Riewoldt  12
Ellis         11
Martin       7
Hampson  2
Vlastuin    2
Vickery     2
Astbury    1
Gordon     1

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Re: Captain Cotchin can't do it all for Tigers - Rohan Connolly (Age)
« Reply #54 on: April 09, 2014, 06:36:02 PM »
Well, well, well now why am I not suprised.... 
If you were in a professional business you would be performance managed out of the business, so why is it any different here???

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Re: Captain Cotchin can't do it all for Tigers - Rohan Connolly (Age)
« Reply #55 on: April 10, 2014, 09:09:19 PM »
Well, well, well now why am I not suprised.... 
If you were in a professional business you would be performance managed out of the business, so why is it any different here???

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Re: Captain Cotchin can't do it all for Tigers - Rohan Connolly (Age)
« Reply #56 on: April 10, 2014, 11:10:00 PM »
so what has changed fron last yr, theres still too much left to too few, when the few are injured or stopped we cave in.

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Re: Captain Cotchin can't do it all for Tigers - Rohan Connolly (Age)
« Reply #57 on: April 11, 2014, 12:56:19 PM »
actually last year was a more rounded performance. It wasnt a case of so much being left to too few.

Currently Cotchin's form is well and truly on an upwards curve towards his 2012 (drug free brownlow winning) form.

last year he was average at best, yet we were one goal umpire blunder from a top four finish.

so what has changed is that the output from many of his teamates is down on last year.

Currently it is down to too much left to too few, but that wasn't the case last year
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Re: Captain Cotchin can't do it all for Tigers - Rohan Connolly (Age)
« Reply #58 on: April 11, 2014, 09:00:08 PM »
Gets elbowed in head no one helps him
Gets scragged relentless no one helps him
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Re: Captain Cotchin can't do it all for Tigers - Rohan Connolly (Age)
« Reply #59 on: April 11, 2014, 09:09:46 PM »
Gets handcuffed to the bed, can he do it?
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