Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS

[RollsRoyce]

I'm off the opinion now the reason the AFL are keeping quiet is because they will get off

Remember the tanking. Very quiet and to be shown they did something gave them a slap on the wrist

Yeah, if it was up to the AFL they would get off because we all know they have a track record of shoving their head up their bum on anything that damages their "brand" and making it go away. But WADA and/or ASADA wont let this thing just blow over. If they took it, they are GONE, as it should be. And the whole club will be made to pay, believe me.

[Penelope]

Ch 7 tonight showed this quote from this February 2013 ACC report (page 14). Seems this will be Essendon's defence. That the ACC/ASADA weren't on the same page as WADA.


GROWTH HORMONE VARIANTS

AOD-9604 is a variant of growth hormone which has fat burning properties and may be used by athletes to increase power to weight ratios by better utilisation of fat stores. AOD-9604 is about to enter phase three clinical trials.

During phase two clinical trials it was also found to have an anabolic effect on cartilage tissue and may promote cartilage creation and repair and have a capacity to enhance muscle formation.

AOD-9604 is not currently a WADA prohibited substance.

http://www.crimecommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/files/organised-crime-and-drugs-in-sports-feb2013.pdf

cant see that working. any substance not approved for human use is automatically a prohibited substance, even if it is not specifically on the banned list

[Francois Jackson]

Ch 7 tonight showed this quote from this February 2013 ACC report (page 14). Seems this will be Essendon's defence. That the ACC/ASADA weren't on the same page as WADA.


GROWTH HORMONE VARIANTS

AOD-9604 is a variant of growth hormone which has fat burning properties and may be used by athletes to increase power to weight ratios by better utilisation of fat stores. AOD-9604 is about to enter phase three clinical trials.

During phase two clinical trials it was also found to have an anabolic effect on cartilage tissue and may promote cartilage creation and repair and have a capacity to enhance muscle formation.

AOD-9604 is not currently a WADA prohibited substance.

http://www.crimecommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/files/organised-crime-and-drugs-in-sports-feb2013.pdf

cant see that working. any substance not approved for human use is automatically a prohibited substance, even if it is not specifically on the banned list

true but where did this wording come from Al?

AOD-9604 is not currently a WADA prohibited substance.

was it a typo if so i don't remember seeing it.

Hird isn't a total fool, although that can be argued but their confidence is growing by the day. The silence from the AFL shows something is going on that we don't know about.

[Penelope]

Substances Prohibited At All Times
Any pharmacological substance which is not addressed by any of the subsequent sections of the List and with no current approval by any governmental regulatory health authority for human therapeutic use (e.g drugs under pre-clinical or clinical development or discontinued, designer drugs, substances approved only for veterinary use) is prohibited.

http://list.wada-ama.org/prohibited-all-times/prohibited-substances/

[Loui Tufga]

There is a massive legal loophole here with this document and the word I'm hearing is the Bombers are going to slip straight through it. Apparently the Bombers have had  the document in question independently accessed by 3 different legal firms in 3 different country's and there all saying that ASADA and WADA don't have a leg to stand on because of it. Watch this space but it certainly looks like the club is going to get out of it 100% scott free

[Yeahright]

What about the fact they injected (who cares what it was) off site away from doctors. That's illegal in itself

[Francois Jackson]

There is a massive legal loophole here with this document and the word I'm hearing is the Bombers are going to slip straight through it. Apparently the Bombers have had  the document in question independently accessed by 3 different legal firms in 3 different country's and there all saying that ASADA and WADA don't have a leg to stand on because of it. Watch this space but it certainly looks like the club is going to get out of it 100% scott free

that's what i heard from a bomber fan but who knows how authentic it is.

getting injected away will result in a slap of the wrist so the AFL is seen to be doing something.

I'm with you on this one. I think the calmness of Hird and co shows they are certainly looking better by the day.

[Coach]

I'm going to take that drug if it's not illegal. Brilliant

[1965]

I'm going to take that drug if it's not illegal. Brilliant

It's an anti-obesity drug.

How much weight have you put on since your playing days?

 

[Coach]

Not much. Still working hard but I eat like Dick Adams. This drug sounds like a beauty for me

[Judge Roughneck]

I'm going to take that drug if it's not illegal. Brilliant

It's an anti-obesity drug.

How much weight have you put on since your playing days?

 

All round super-drug. Thinking of getting onto some myself

 It also has other benefits including increasing muscle mass, increasing IGF-1 (insulin growth factor) in a positive way to metabolise fat, and increase the amount of energy burned for the same amount of activity.

Other benefits which have been shown include an improvement in osteoarthritis. It does this by increasing cartilage and collagen production in the joints to increase the thickness and repair some of the damage. It has been shown to improve muscle, tendon and ligament repair, improve bone density

[Yeahright]

Just stick to creatine

[Penelope]

I'm going to take that drug if it's not illegal. Brilliant

It's an anti-obesity drug.

How much weight have you put on since your playing days?

 

All round super-drug. Thinking of getting onto some myself

 It also has other benefits including increasing muscle mass, increasing IGF-1 (insulin growth factor) in a positive way to metabolise fat, and increase the amount of energy burned for the same amount of activity.

Other benefits which have been shown include an improvement in osteoarthritis. It does this by increasing cartilage and collagen production in the joints to increase the thickness and repair some of the damage. It has been shown to improve muscle, tendon and ligament repair, improve bone density

sounds like BS to me. Fat is not metabolised by insulin, but by an entirely different metabolic pathway.

[Judge Roughneck]

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[Yeahright]

It also has other benefits including increasing muscle mass, increasing IGF-1 (insulin growth factor) in a positive way to metabolise fat, and increase the amount of energy burned for the same amount of activity.

sounds like BS to me. Fat is not metabolised by insulin, but by an entirely different metabolic pathway.

Its actually insulin-like growth factor, and it helps with metabolising fat by changing your fuel source from carbs to fats rather than actually burning the fats itself