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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1350 on: August 09, 2013, 07:12:36 AM »
Hopefully its all announced today, Hird is sacked and the weekend will be off to a cracking start  :clapping
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1351 on: August 09, 2013, 11:16:33 AM »

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1352 on: August 09, 2013, 11:32:20 AM »
According to ABC Radio, Essendon have been given two choices by the AFL in regards to punishment
Loss of points for this year
or
Resignation of Hird, Thompson, Corcoran and Reid
http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/2013/08/bst_20130809_0625.mp3


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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1353 on: August 09, 2013, 11:49:03 AM »
According to ABC Radio, Essendon have been given two choices by the AFL in regards to punishment
Loss of points for this year
or
Resignation of Hird, Thompson, Corcoran and Reid
http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/2013/08/bst_20130809_0625.mp3


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If true that is hilarious

if it's about "protecting the players" then they take option 2 wouldn't they

If it's about protecting the golden haired one then they take option 1

If it's about the integrity of the comp thenthe AFL whack them with both  ;D

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1354 on: August 09, 2013, 11:50:12 AM »

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1355 on: August 09, 2013, 11:53:45 AM »


Always preferred "Chook Lotto" myself  :thumbsup
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1356 on: August 09, 2013, 12:37:17 PM »
vlad: Baldrick, I have a very, very, very cunning plan.
Gillon: Is it as cunning as a fox what used to be Professor of Cunning at Oxford University but has moved on and is now working for the U.N. at the High Commission of International Cunning Planning?
Vlad: Yes it is.
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1357 on: August 09, 2013, 01:53:54 PM »
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1358 on: August 09, 2013, 05:20:45 PM »
Q. What's the collective noun for a group of drug cheats?

A. A Hird ;D

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1359 on: August 09, 2013, 07:20:41 PM »
Big Dwainski is back!

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1360 on: August 10, 2013, 02:23:58 AM »
ASADA doping report will not be made public ...

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/doping-report-will-not-be-made-public/story-fndv8gad-1226694522477

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Expect Essendon to be charged early next week. For the AFL, that's just in the nick of time, as the finals deadline beckons.

Essendon must be allowed time to mount a defence in what is a complex matter. If a charge of bringing the game into disrepute lands on Monday, this would give the club exactly a fortnight before the next AFL Commission meeting - the anticipated time for hearing the case - on Monday, August 26.

This would be just four days before the final Friday night game of the home-and-away season. That is cutting it fine, in terms of protecting the ''integrity'' of the 2013 finals - one of the objectives the AFL outlined in dealing with the Essendon case, although Andrew Demetriou also suggested this week that a pre-finals outcome was a wish, rather than an absolute necessity. The AFL boss could see the sand disappearing down the finals hourglass.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bombers-to-be-charged-next-week-20130809-2rnk8.html#ixzz2bUQSH100

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1361 on: August 10, 2013, 02:25:08 AM »
The doctor who didn't Reid the play

   Caroline Wilson
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    August 10, 2013


The role played by Essendon's veteran club doctor, Bruce Reid, in the risky drugs program of 2012 remains an intriguing element of the unprecedented AFL scandal.

For decades Reid has been a revered and beloved figure at Windy Hill and, long before this supplements saga, one of the best-known doctors in the game. Now Doc Reid carries that fame for reasons he must wish did not exist.

For the truth is Dr Bruce Reid has not emerged well from the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority summary handed to Essendon last weekend. His own legal team is understood to have received a copy of the report on Wednesday and he continues to remain silent on the role he played in the shameful episode.

There is no suggestion that Reid set out to administer banned substances to his players, or even that he played any meaningful role in implementing the high-risk and potentially dangerous program. Like so many club doctors, he works at Essendon on a part-time basis. But clearly he did not do enough to stop it.

Reid approved the use of the World Anti-Doping Agency-banned AOD-9604. He clearly did not delve deeply enough into the S0 category under which the drug is banned - being not fit for therapeutic use - and appears unable to provide the written proof the club claimed it received from ASADA about the substance.

Jobe Watson declared he took what was believed to be the drug after it was approved by Reid. Every AFL player is told that every substance they take must be approved by the club doctor and that rule has underpinned the Essendon players' defence.

The evidence delivered to ASADA and the AFL paints in part a picture of a doctor battling to keep up with sports science, investigating substances he was unaware of and battling at times an impatient high-performance and coaching staff.

ASADA was told that coach James Hird allegedly became impatient with Reid's lengthy time delays in approving substances administered to players. Reid told the joint investigators he was muscled out of his position of influence by the high-performance team led by Stephen Dank and Dean Robinson and had little knowledge of more dubious elements of the program.

When the club received the now notorious Hypermed bill for more than $60,000, Reid was one of several in charge who had no idea the club was paying for the hyperbaric treatment and supplementary injections over a four-month period. He believed the treatments were being done free for promotional purposes.

The matter of Reid's letter written in January 2012, handed to former football boss Paul Hamilton and intended for the Essendon board, which noted the doctor's reservations with the program, is also intriguing.

The letter was allegedly written after and not before the email correspondence between Robinson and Hird in which both men underlined the importance of player welfare and WADA compliance, but either way Reid has never explained why he did not adequately follow up his concerns.

The board had no knowledge of the letter and yet Reid's friendship with former chairman David Evans was so close and their shared history so strong that several meetings leading to the appointment of Hird were held in Reid's medical rooms. Reid and Hird also have a relationship that borders on the familial and the doctor was an integral part of their inner sanctum when Hird returned to coach the club.

Clearly Reid's faith in Hird, which continues to this day, can in part explain why he did not act earlier or more strongly in preventing the program, which still leaves the players facing bans under the anti-doping codes and the club and key individuals facing unprecedented sanctions from the AFL. The AFL Players Association also harbours misgivings about the lack of welfare and safety at Essendon last year.

This must be a heavy burden for Reid to carry. Most key witnesses have refused to take significant responsibility for the ''pharmacologically experimental environment'' at Essendon and it remains uncertain whether Reid has put his hand up for not doing enough to prevent it.

There were mitigating circumstances, but the inescapable conclusion is that the club doctor - while not shouldering all the blame - must shoulder some.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/the-doctor-who-didnt-reid-the-play-20130809-2rnkc.html#ixzz2bUQl3QFr

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1362 on: August 10, 2013, 06:35:30 AM »


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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1363 on: August 10, 2013, 09:15:18 AM »
And Nurse Nurofen to his right
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1364 on: August 10, 2013, 10:20:57 AM »
And Nurse Nurofen to his right

Yessssssssssssssssss big Dooks  :lol