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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2985 on: September 23, 2014, 10:56:48 PM »
Lmao Dank is an epic troll. Of he had the evidence and gave a stuff he would have produced it already. Has had plenty of invitations.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2986 on: September 24, 2014, 06:56:14 AM »
Caro's response: "Stephen Dank is the least credible person I've ever dealt with in sport. I don't know why we are giving him any airtime"  :thumbsup  :clapping

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2987 on: September 25, 2014, 05:11:13 AM »
ASADA to provide evidence to Essendon players

  Jon Pierik
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    September 25, 2014



The Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority has revealed it will provide a "comprehensive summary" of evidence against the 34 Essendon players issued with show-cause notices, and has suggested it is open to a deal with players prepared to come forward.

The anti-doping body explained to Fairfax Media on Wednesday night how the next stage of the process against the Essendon players would unfold, now that the Bombers and coach James Hird have lost their Federal Court case attempting to prove the investigation into the club's 2012 supplements program was unlawful.

An ASADA spokesperson said the show-cause process was on hold while the Bombers and Hird debated whether to appeal the Federal Court decision. The two parties had 21 days from last Friday – when Justice John Middleton made his ruling – to make a call. The Bombers board met on Wednesday, with the appeal understood to be a key point of discussion.

"The show-cause notice process for the 34 former and current Essendon Football Club players will remain on hold while the Federal Court appeal period is in place," the ASADA spokesperson said.

"What we do next will be determined once the appeal period expires or an appeal is lodged."

The spokesperson said once that decision was resolved, ASADA chief Ben McDevitt would become involved.

"In the event the appeal period expires and no appeal is lodged, it is the intention of ASADA CEO Ben McDevitt to provide the players with amended show-cause notices," the spokesperson said.

"The amended notices will set a new date for the lodgment of submissions and include a comprehensive summary of the evidence in support of the case against the players."

The players were initially given show-cause notices in June but these did not include a summary of evidence. The notices were put on hold when the Bombers and Hird lodged their court case.

The AFL Players Association and its lawyers have repeatedly asked for the anti-doping body to provide the evidence it has alleging the players were given the banned peptide, thymosin beta-4, during the sports science program run by Stephen Dank.

The players would then have up to a fortnight to respond and show they should not be added to the Register of Findings.

The Anti-Doping Review Violation Panel, a body independent of ASADA, then assesses a brief of evidence and the responses of the players. If a player is added to the Register of Findings, this the first step towards infraction notices being administered by the AFL.

The players face suspensions of up to two years but have maintained they are not interested in a deal.

However, ASADA has suggested it is open to a deal with any player prepared to come forward.  "We are open to that prospect as we are with any athlete facing a possible doping violation," the spokesperson said.

Should players change their mind, one possible deal  is that they do not admit to guilt, having been duped into being given a banned substance, and are handed a six-month sentence, meaning they would miss few  matches.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/asada-to-provide-evidence-to-essendon-players-20140924-10ll6v.html

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2988 on: September 25, 2014, 04:29:47 PM »
asada should ONLY offer deals to players who
Sign with a new club.
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2989 on: September 26, 2014, 03:53:49 AM »
Essendon players facing doping charges expected to head to AFL Tribunal to beat notices

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September 26, 2014


THE 34 current and former Essendon players facing anti-doping charges will head straight to an AFL tribunal if they can’t knock show-cause notices on the head.

The decision to sidestep initial challenges to Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority action at the Administrative Appeals Tribunal and Federal Court means the end of the long-running saga is in sight — provided Essendon and James Hird elect not to appeal their own failed Federal Court challenge.

ASADA on Wednesday promised to issue new show cause notices — along with briefs of evidence — to players as soon as Essendon and Hird’s 21-day Federal Court appeal window expires on October 10.

Players’ representatives remain hopeful that their response to those notices will put an end to ASADA’s pursuit, but are otherwise ready to have a tribunal hearing.

The Herald Sun understands the players’ desire to have matters resolved as soon as possible means the AAT and Federal Court route — where players can test whether there is sufficient evidence for a possible anti-doping rule breach to have occurred — has been ruled out.

That will expedite matters by a year or more.

There have been suggestions that the players’ cases could go straight to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

But it is the AFL’s intention to stick to the letter of its anti-doping code and have any cases heard by the league’s independent anti-doping tribunal.

The players would then have two appeal steps open to them, at an AFL appeals hearing and ultimately at the CAS.

A decision by Hird or Essendon to appeal Justice Middleton’s ruling that ASADA’s joint probe with the AFL into the club was lawful would delay any hearing of the players’ cases.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-players-facing-doping-charges-expected-to-head-to-afl-tribunal-to-beat-notices/story-fndv8gad-1227070800246

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2990 on: September 28, 2014, 12:22:43 PM »
According to Barrett just now:

Stewart Crameri, who's now at the Bulldogs of course, is considering to be the first of the 34 players to break ranks and accept a deal from ASADA. Barrett said he won't be the only one as there's definitely a split developing in the playing group. What happens with Paddy Ryder will also matter as the club, that he eventually will go to, will want assurances about how many games he will miss if there's sanctions/suspensions.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2991 on: September 28, 2014, 07:49:58 PM »
James Hird should quit as Essendon coach in the wake of the club’s supplements scandal, Leigh Matthews says.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/leigh-matthews-urges-essendon-and-james-hird-to-part-ways-in-wake-of-supplements-scandal/story-fndv8gad-1227072999809

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2992 on: September 28, 2014, 09:50:01 PM »
if in the event the players are let off by an AFL Tribunal WADA will rock up and take to the Court of Sports Arbitration and the players could be in a lot of trouble if they lose at that stage.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2993 on: September 28, 2014, 10:37:25 PM »
Hopefully this is the path taken and the afl exposed as the money hungry dodgy pricks they are

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2994 on: September 29, 2014, 02:51:37 PM »
Player manager Paul Connors: 'Some Essendon players will be taking Deals shortly and will only be a 1-2 month ban in the offseason.'

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Essendon opts against appealing Federal Court verdict (Age)
« Reply #2995 on: October 01, 2014, 04:23:17 PM »
Essendon will spurn the opportunity to appeal the verdict in the Federal Court case that found in favour of ASADA and allowed it to proceed with show cause notices for 34 current and former players.

The club's imminent decision not to appeal Justice John Middleton's verdict - which dismissed the applications by both Essendon and coach James Hird on September 19 - is despite receiving legal advice that it would win an appeal. It is unclear whether Hird will follow Essendon's lead or launch his own appeal.

Sources said Hird had been in favour of an appeal - which his legal team also argued that it would win - and that the club's stance was about far more than the pure legal position. It has been made plain to Essendon that the AFL did not want it to appeal the verdict, in which Essendon not only lost but had costs awarded against it.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-opts-against-appealing-federal-court-verdict-20141001-10op2e.html#ixzz3Es6aNPZG

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Re: Essendon opts against appealing Federal Court verdict (Age)
« Reply #2996 on: October 01, 2014, 04:30:26 PM »
is despite receiving legal advice that it would win an appeal. It is unclear whether Hird will follow Essendon's lead or launch his own appeal.
I'm sure they believed that like they believed the first case would win.  Only they share that view  :wallywink
Their arrogance continues

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2998 on: October 01, 2014, 05:24:40 PM »
WADA today said they would sign off on the cronulla deal, but were not that happy with it.

i suspect they may be a tad annoyed with essendon and may not be so compliant with any deal struck
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2999 on: October 01, 2014, 06:46:00 PM »
James Hird faces sack if he challenges Federal Court, banned from Essendon best-and-fairest ceremony

    18 minutes ago October 01, 2014 6:25PM

ESSENDON coach James Hird faces the sack if he opts to go against club orders and appeal a Federal Court ruling on the Bombers’ drugs saga.

Hird has been told not to attend tonight’s club best-and-fairest ceremony at Crown Cas-ino.

It comes after the Herald Sun revealed he plans to lodge appeal documents as early as Thursday with the Federal Court.

The Bombers board could meet Thursday for crisis talks.

The Bombers have opted not to appeal this month’s ruling by Justice John Middleton, but the Herald Sun believes Hird is set to go it alone.

Hird has the right to appeal but the move could put him at odds with the club as it faces the loss of senior assistant coach Mark Thompson to the Gold Coast.

Despite strong legal advice, Essendon has decided not to appeal its case against ASADA to the full Federal Court.

Hird has been seriously considering his own options for the last 48 hours.

Lawyers for Essendon and Hird believe they have overwhelming grounds for appeal, but the club’s board has determined it wants to end the 20-month drugs saga as quickly as possible.


It’s understood the AFL is supportive of Essendon’s decision to end its litigation.

It is the second time the Bombers board has given up its fight against the AFL and ASADA.

Last August, they accepted a deal and were found guilty of bringing the game into disrepute.

They then challenged the legality of the joint AFL-ASADA investigation in the Federal Court.

Essendon will hold its best and fairest night at Crown ca-sino tonight where Hird and Thompson are expected to appear.

Show cause notices against 34 former and current Essendon players would likely remain on ice if the Hird camp go to appeal.

Essendon and Hird’s case against ASADA was comprehensively thrown out by Justice Middleton on September 19.

An expedited appeal could be heard by the end of October or early November.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/james-hird-faces-sack-if-he-challenges-federal-court-banned-from-essendon-bestandfairest-ceremony/story-fndv8gad-1227076746213