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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #3737 on: January 12, 2016, 10:26:29 AM »
Just on quick work smoko so not sure where to find the CAS findings but a bloke in this thread posted a bit and it says TB4 was found in urine samples in 2012? I had always assumed all the evidence was always circumstantial. From the little I have read it sounds like the players weren't the innocent little pawns after all and were instrumental in the withholding of information.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/wada-v-essendon-34-players-guilty-12-months-suspension-affects-17-current-players-details-in-op.1121067/page-59

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What a crock, ahmet saad takes a drink of a substance he can legally take any day but game day and gets banned for 1 year.
Essendo  players take a substance which is a definate no no and get 1 year.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #3739 on: January 12, 2016, 11:02:35 AM »
I can listen to sen. Again
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They actually got two years.
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So none of the "34" played last year?

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Brutal. Surely the wooden spooners of 2016

We have them twice too. 8 premiership points in the bank.
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So none of the "34" played last year?

No the penalty is from 14 Nov 2014 through 13 Nov 2015

But all the players served "provisional suspensions" last pre-season (14/11/2014 to 31/3/2015 - remember none played the NAB Challenge) so that is deemed as part time served

BTW this gets merged with the long running Bombers thread....
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3744 on: January 12, 2016, 11:39:02 AM »
Just on quick work smoko so not sure where to find the CAS findings but a bloke in this thread posted a bit and it says TB4 was found in urine samples in 2012? I had always assumed all the evidence was always circumstantial. From the little I have read it sounds like the players weren't the innocent little pawns after all and were instrumental in the withholding of information.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/wada-v-essendon-34-players-guilty-12-months-suspension-affects-17-current-players-details-in-op.1121067/page-59

Yep that's correct, those samples were one of the main points of WADA's appeal

The Age lets you download the full 48 page judgement by the CAS

Have just had a quick read and it is absolutely damning of the players

Talk about "whackety, whack whack"
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3745 on: January 12, 2016, 12:02:58 PM »
Now we just need Jobby to hand over that Brownlow to its rightful owners ... err ... after you've had all those layers of filth cleaned off it, right Jobby ...   :P

Congrats to Bachar for making the right call ... getting out of there was a masterstroke. 
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3746 on: January 12, 2016, 01:02:31 PM »
I applaud WADA, the alleged paper Lion.
Thanks for exposing these corrupt digs known as the afl.
LMAO at them conducting an investigation in conjunction with asada.
How belligerently stupid are these pricks.
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Doping bans 'a miscarriage of justice' says Hird .... (afl site)
« Reply #3747 on: January 12, 2016, 01:16:56 PM »
And here's Jimmy ...



"I am shocked by this decision," Hird said in a statement.

"I firmly believe the players do not deserve this finding.

"They do not deserve to face a twelve-month suspension from the sport. This is a miscarriage of justice for 34 young men.

"I will not be making any further comment today. I intend to make further comment later in the week."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-01-12/guilty-verdict-a-miscarriage-of-justice-says-former-bombers-coach-james-hird

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Essendon players victims, not perpetrators: AFL Players Association
« Reply #3748 on: January 12, 2016, 01:18:50 PM »
The AFLPA ain't happy either ....



Essendon players victims, not perpetrators: Marsh
By Paul Marsh
aflpa.com.au
Jan 12, 2016



The AFL Players’ Association is bitterly disappointed by today’s decision of the Court of Arbitration for Sport and shattered for each and every player involved.

We have maintained a consistent position that these players did nothing wrong, and today’s decision does nothing to change our view.

It is important to note that the players took all reasonable steps to assure themselves that what they were being given was compliant with the WADA Code. They expressly sought confirmation that all supplements they were to be provided were in compliance with the Code, and were provided with written documentation to this effect.

The players’ legal team will now conduct a thorough review of the decision, the process which has led to it, and the general applicability of the WADA regime to our game. As is stands, we are struggling to understand how the CAS decision can be so different to that of the AFL Anti-Doping Tribunal, Chaired by David Jones and including John Nixon and Wayne Henwood, who so emphatically rejected ASADA’s case.

With respect to the sanction, we cannot comprehend how the players have received the maximum sanction under the Code.

We are staggered to read comments attributed to the ASADA CEO today, that “there were very little grounds for the players to claim they were at no significant fault.” This is despite his previous recommendation to WADA and the AFL that it would be appropriate to reduce the sanction on the basis of no significant fault or negligence.

Whilst we have seen no evidence throughout this process that proves the players were administered supplements which were not compliant with the Code, if this is the case then they have been deceived. They are the victims, not the perpetrators. They deserve our sympathy, not our scorn.

In circumstances where they’ve been deceived, I ask this question – what more could the players have done to ensure the supplements were compliant?  We believe this is a case where the “no significant fault or negligence” provision should have been applied.

To the players – again the victims of this sorry saga – you can stand with your heads held high, notwithstanding today’s decision. Not only did you take all reasonable steps to assure yourselves that what you were being given was compliant with the WADA Code, but you cooperated fully with the AFL, ASADA, WADA and CAS at all times. You are deserving of a huge amount of credit for the way you’ve conducted yourselves at all times through this process.  Sadly you have been horribly let down throughout this process.

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/essendon-players-victims-not-perpetrators-marsh/

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