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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3780 on: January 13, 2016, 04:42:36 PM »
Jobe Watson has broken his silence and is still claiming they're all innocent and are looking at their legal options.


“The decision announced by the Court of Arbitration for Sport to uphold WADA’s appeal is devastating,” Jobe Watson said.

“We are struggling to come to terms with this decision, and feel it does not support the players’ firm belief that we are innocent.

“Our legal team is conducting a thorough review of the decision and will explore any avenues available to us.”


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jobe-watson-says-essendon-players-are-devastated-by-ban/news-story/b570fc4864885773efcdaf6d998f3007

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3781 on: January 13, 2016, 04:58:24 PM »
Key word in that array of tripe is - B E L I E F.
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3782 on: January 13, 2016, 05:40:35 PM »
Jobe Watson has broken his silence and is still claiming they're all innocent and are looking at their legal options.


“The decision announced by the Court of Arbitration for Sport to uphold WADA’s appeal is devastating,” Jobe Watson said.

“We are struggling to come to terms with this decision, and feel it does not support the players’ firm belief that we are innocent.

“Our legal team is conducting a thorough review of the decision and will explore any avenues available to us.”


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jobe-watson-says-essendon-players-are-devastated-by-ban/news-story/b570fc4864885773efcdaf6d998f3007

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The Hague?

Intergalactic tribunal of drugs in sport?
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3783 on: January 14, 2016, 12:46:57 AM »
Jobe Watson has broken his silence and is still claiming they're all innocent and are looking at their legal options.


“The decision announced by the Court of Arbitration for Sport to uphold WADA’s appeal is devastating,” Jobe Watson said.

“We are struggling to come to terms with this decision, and feel it does not support the players’ firm belief that we are innocent.

“Our legal team is conducting a thorough review of the decision and will explore any avenues available to us.”


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jobe-watson-says-essendon-players-are-devastated-by-ban/news-story/b570fc4864885773efcdaf6d998f3007

How much higher do you want to go?

The Hague?

Intergalactic tribunal of drugs in sport?

Dons seek appeal loophole

   Jake Niall
      The Age
    January 14, 2016


Bitterly disappointed by season-long suspensions, current and former Essendon players have their lawyers exploring avenues for legal action that might overturn the verdict.

While it is far from certain that a legal challenge will be mounted against a Court of Arbitration for Sport verdict, the legal teams that acted for the 34 players are seriously investigating those options given the disastrous result and what some feel were errors in the judgment.

The avenues that are being investigated include the Swiss Federal Court, the Supreme Courts of the Victoria and NSW and the Federal Court of Australia.

Cases from the CAS have an automatic right of appeal to the Swiss Federal Court on a point of law. There is a view from within the players' legal camp that the case erred in its judgment on a number of grounds, including the devasting finding that the players were significantly at fault and could not receive a discount.

Tony Hargraves, the solicitor who handled the 32 players (not Bulldog pair Stewart Crameri and Brent Prismall) is canvassing the legal avenues and has already identified areas in which he believes the CAS judgment was flawed.

The view of Hargraves and others in the players' defence was that the CAS set the bar for comfortable satisfaction too low.

This was in contrast to the AFL anti-doping tribunal, which WADA savaged for setting the standard of proof too high.

One point Hargraves has noted is that the players were treated by the CAS as a collective and the differences in circumstances and individual evidence were not taken into account in either the verdict or the sentence.

Another objection and even a point that could be challenged was that the CAS did not take into account the delay caused by Essendon's Federal Court action when setting out the sentences. As the players' lawyers pointed out, the players were not part of the action taken by Essendon and James Hird against ASADA in the Court.

The players' lawyers also noted that there was dissent among the three-man panel, with one judge not comfortably satisfied that some players – the number is not specified but has to be at least two – took thymosin beta-4, although the dissenting panellist was satisfied that players did take TB4.

Legal sources with a knowledge of the case speculated that the dissent would likely have been based on the timing of injections in 2012.

www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-cas-verdict-dons-seek-appeal-loophole-20160113-gm5c7q.html

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3784 on: January 14, 2016, 12:56:59 AM »
Switzerland. Lmao.
It's a long way from your crappy mates club, fellas.
Not only can't they be men and fess up, they have to waste everyone else's time and money again, just to prove that they THINK they're innocent.

What a pack of dumbass cowardly idiots
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3785 on: January 14, 2016, 04:43:47 AM »
Swiss fed court at st gallen issues up coming issues/

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3786 on: January 14, 2016, 07:24:27 AM »
Essendon should be saving their money for all the claims that will be brought up against them by affected players and other clubs.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3787 on: January 14, 2016, 10:04:15 AM »
Switzerland. Lmao.
It's a long way from your pooty mates club, fellas.
Not only can't they be men and fess up, they have to waste everyone else's time and money again, just to prove that they THINK they're innocent.

What a pack of dumbass cowardly idiots

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3788 on: January 14, 2016, 01:26:41 PM »
If and when players start to sue the Essendon football club, guess who the Dons are going to have to ask for money to help pay out on the punitive damages. The AFL. Which means effectively our consumer dollars of the AFL are going to pay for Essendon to pay out on the lives it ruined. Have fun going to sleep with that little possibility....

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3789 on: January 14, 2016, 01:42:23 PM »
If and when players start to sue the Essendon football club, guess who the Dons are going to have to ask for money to help pay out on the punitive damages. The AFL. Which means effectively our consumer dollars of the AFL are going to pay for Essendon to pay out on the lives it ruined. Have fun going to sleep with that little possibility....

They may ask but they probably wont recevied seeing the AFL are likely to be sued as well  ;D
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3790 on: January 14, 2016, 01:59:02 PM »
If and when players start to sue the Essendon football club, guess who the Dons are going to have to ask for money to help pay out on the punitive damages. The AFL. Which means effectively our consumer dollars of the AFL are going to pay for Essendon to pay out on the lives it ruined. Have fun going to sleep with that little possibility....

They may ask but they probably wont recevied seeing the AFL are likely to be sued as well  ;D

What liability would the AFL have?

And if they can't pay damages the club may go under?

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3791 on: January 14, 2016, 02:13:02 PM »
They should be de registered from the league for bringing the game into disrepute 
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3792 on: January 14, 2016, 02:56:55 PM »
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3793 on: January 14, 2016, 03:28:55 PM »

What liability would the AFL have?

And if they can't pay damages the club may go under?

on your first point - the contracts are co-signed by the AFL, all standard terms & condtions are part of the AFL CBA with the players and these are all contracts. It has been well documented by opionion pieces written by sports lawayers that the players if they chose to sue are well within their rights to sue the AFL as well

re your 2nd point - Yes that's a problem for the EFC which is of their own making
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3794 on: January 14, 2016, 03:32:32 PM »
Sometimes when a man breaks into your house to steal something . And hurts himself in th process , he can sue you and win...

Efc:  inject them self with banned drugs, sue the governing body  :clapping
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