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we take a ruckman, who led the league in average hit outs to advantage and was equal 6th for contested marks, to give much needed support for maric, and now the same people who squealed over that now want to get Karnezis, who has done what?stuff me, hampson had more contested marks in his last two games that Karnezis has for his career
Quote from: Andyy on October 21, 2013, 02:40:08 PMShould chase Adams harder and offer pick 12 if necessary. Offer him more money. Pick 12 is a good pick, but if we're going for another mid (most likely) why not take the risk (of getting a dud) out of the equation and grab a player like Adams with two years under his belt, a strong body, and a clearly very good talent. Worth pick 12 any day and the certainty of knowing he's a gun should make it a priority.No. We've set our limit if he won't accept let it be. How's Conca going to feel watching Adams run around on an extra 100k or 300k over the life of their 3 year deals. Same price as Conca is fair, if he refuses then so be it. Move on, draft another player we like.
Should chase Adams harder and offer pick 12 if necessary. Offer him more money. Pick 12 is a good pick, but if we're going for another mid (most likely) why not take the risk (of getting a dud) out of the equation and grab a player like Adams with two years under his belt, a strong body, and a clearly very good talent. Worth pick 12 any day and the certainty of knowing he's a gun should make it a priority.
Quote from: Mrakov on October 21, 2013, 01:38:37 PMQuote from: WA Tiger on October 21, 2013, 01:33:19 PMThe Pies have done it again, absolutely nailed the trade period.... nailed it....now they will do the same in the draft.....We will never see them out of the 8, their succession planning and sustainability program is second to none...just like Sydney!!!!Look how active they have been. Yet we are happy with Hampson and think we have a list to challenge for a flag. Please. The pies are a class act Surely that's a ban ffs, that is worse that dropping the big 'C' imo
Quote from: WA Tiger on October 21, 2013, 01:33:19 PMThe Pies have done it again, absolutely nailed the trade period.... nailed it....now they will do the same in the draft.....We will never see them out of the 8, their succession planning and sustainability program is second to none...just like Sydney!!!!Look how active they have been. Yet we are happy with Hampson and think we have a list to challenge for a flag. Please. The pies are a class act
The Pies have done it again, absolutely nailed the trade period.... nailed it....now they will do the same in the draft.....We will never see them out of the 8, their succession planning and sustainability program is second to none...just like Sydney!!!!
Quote from: tigs2011 on October 21, 2013, 02:44:19 PMQuote from: Andyy on October 21, 2013, 02:40:08 PMShould chase Adams harder and offer pick 12 if necessary. Offer him more money. Pick 12 is a good pick, but if we're going for another mid (most likely) why not take the risk (of getting a dud) out of the equation and grab a player like Adams with two years under his belt, a strong body, and a clearly very good talent. Worth pick 12 any day and the certainty of knowing he's a gun should make it a priority.No. We've set our limit if he won't accept let it be. How's Conca going to feel watching Adams run around on an extra 100k or 300k over the life of their 3 year deals. Same price as Conca is fair, if he refuses then so be it. Move on, draft another player we like.hows beams going to feel having adams on the same $$ as him if not slightly more? players need to suck it up, Adams is a gun and imo better than Conca
Haha against GWS. Give me a breakGriffiths well most on here laugh at the blokeBean well he is rawElton see GriffithsI would take Collingwoods drafting strategy over yours just quietly And bojangles Raines was getting game time at lions does that mean we should go for him. In case you forgot voss was their coach and what was he like at identifying talentwhat you are both saying is Karnezis is not worth pick 50. Is that right cause he couldn't fit into a Voss led team? Docherty must be rubbish too, longer also
Quote from: Angus Hampson on October 21, 2013, 01:58:06 PMQuote from: al on October 21, 2013, 01:40:18 PMwe take a ruckman, who led the league in average hit outs to advantage and was equal 6th for contested marks, to give much needed support for maric, and now the same people who squealed over that now want to get Karnezis, who has done what?stuff me, hampson had more contested marks in his last two games that Karnezis has for his careerpick 50 i said, nothing less. Would be happy for White and Hampson also at this range as that's what all 3 are worthI value pick 32 over 50 and clearly you do also cause if i recall you didnt want to take Ball with a second round but third was okay. so your theory is its ok to take crap as long as you get it for a bargain?Not sure if i ever said i was happy to take ball with a third round pick, but as I have explained once before when you bought up luke ball ( not that long ago either ), due to doing some research and now having information that i didnt have before, i have changed my view on the value of draft picks.So, i would have thought, given recent discussions where i have said this directly to you and also argued that i dont value picks over 20 that much, it was clear that i dont value pick 32 that much over pick 50. Obviously though, some things are not that clear to clouded minds.
Quote from: al on October 21, 2013, 01:40:18 PMwe take a ruckman, who led the league in average hit outs to advantage and was equal 6th for contested marks, to give much needed support for maric, and now the same people who squealed over that now want to get Karnezis, who has done what?stuff me, hampson had more contested marks in his last two games that Karnezis has for his careerpick 50 i said, nothing less. Would be happy for White and Hampson also at this range as that's what all 3 are worthI value pick 32 over 50 and clearly you do also cause if i recall you didnt want to take Ball with a second round but third was okay.
Quote from: Owl on October 21, 2013, 03:05:52 PMQuote from: Mrakov on October 21, 2013, 01:38:37 PMQuote from: WA Tiger on October 21, 2013, 01:33:19 PMThe Pies have done it again, absolutely nailed the trade period.... nailed it....now they will do the same in the draft.....We will never see them out of the 8, their succession planning and sustainability program is second to none...just like Sydney!!!!Look how active they have been. Yet we are happy with Hampson and think we have a list to challenge for a flag. Please. The pies are a class act Surely that's a ban ffs, that is worse that dropping the big 'C' imoOwl, I think he meant to use the big C instead of the word class
Quote from: al on October 21, 2013, 02:13:15 PMQuote from: Angus Hampson on October 21, 2013, 01:58:06 PMQuote from: al on October 21, 2013, 01:40:18 PMwe take a ruckman, who led the league in average hit outs to advantage and was equal 6th for contested marks, to give much needed support for maric, and now the same people who squealed over that now want to get Karnezis, who has done what?stuff me, hampson had more contested marks in his last two games that Karnezis has for his careerpick 50 i said, nothing less. Would be happy for White and Hampson also at this range as that's what all 3 are worthI value pick 32 over 50 and clearly you do also cause if i recall you didnt want to take Ball with a second round but third was okay. so your theory is its ok to take crap as long as you get it for a bargain?Not sure if i ever said i was happy to take ball with a third round pick, but as I have explained once before when you bought up luke ball ( not that long ago either ), due to doing some research and now having information that i didnt have before, i have changed my view on the value of draft picks.So, i would have thought, given recent discussions where i have said this directly to you and also argued that i dont value picks over 20 that much, it was clear that i dont value pick 32 that much over pick 50. Obviously though, some things are not that clear to clouded minds.apology accepted
