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Re: Richmond footballer Jake King snubs club bikie ban on Toby Mitchell (H-Sun)
« Reply #105 on: January 24, 2014, 09:58:26 PM »
Unfortunately, WAT; Mr Mitchell is one of the minority and isn't a nice person, fair to say he is one of the "bad" ones

Would think getting shot as result of the bikies wars down here sort of highlights it  ;D
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Re: Richmond footballer Jake King snubs club bikie ban on Toby Mitchell (H-Sun)
« Reply #106 on: January 24, 2014, 10:05:39 PM »
Unfortunately, WAT; Mr Mitchell is one of the minority and isn't a nice person, fair to say he is one of the "bad" ones

Would think getting shot as result of the bikies wars down here sort of highlights it  ;D

Yes true WP, I agree he is one of the bad ones, well he was.

Not sure he even has a record does he?

Aside from that  as I have said before, the King and Mitchell families have been friends long before any of the association rubbish came into play or before he went bad.

Anyway, let's hope common sense prevails by all parties concerned.
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Re: Richmond footballer Jake King snubs club bikie ban on Toby Mitchell (H-Sun)
« Reply #107 on: January 24, 2014, 10:31:38 PM »
Unfortunately, WAT; Mr Mitchell is one of the minority and isn't a nice person, fair to say he is one of the "bad" ones

Would think getting shot as result of the bikies wars down here sort of highlights it  ;D

How would you know ?? I for one think he's a lovely bloke. Don't judge a book by its cover
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Re: Richmond footballer Jake King snubs club bikie ban on Toby Mitchell (H-Sun)
« Reply #108 on: January 25, 2014, 05:37:38 AM »
How do you know he's a lovely bloke? Get him on the forum with Jake for an interview perhaps? Might dispel a few myths...........about you
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Jake King free to make his own decisions: Tigers (Age)
« Reply #109 on: January 28, 2014, 07:59:26 PM »
Jake King free to make his own decisions: Tigers
By Jon Pierik
The Age
Jan. 28, 2014, 6:56 p.m.


Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale has declared he would prefer Jake King does not mix with an outlaw bikie boss but admits it's a decision only King can make.

King was captured on camera last week chatting with former Bandidos biker club sergeant-at-arms Toby Mitchell at Docklands. The pair had also been watching a women's lingerie American football game at AAMI Park in December.

The Tigers have not given their small forward an official warning as he has recently met with Mitchell outside of his time at the club.

"We never issued a warning to Jake about who he can mix with and who he can't. We haven't issued any bans. That's away from the work place, his duty as a footballer," Gale said on 3AW on Tuesday.

"I have been very open with Jake. I would prefer he wouldn't mix with these types of people, particularly in light of the (Australian) Crime Commission report and incidents last year of organised crime.

"They are Jake's choices. I respect that and, as I have said, he has to own them."

Their friendship became public when King invited Mitchell into the Richmond rooms following the Tigers' win over the Brisbane Lions in round 20 at the MCG last season. The Tigers were unimpressed.

"Jake had an incident last year where he bought someone to the rooms in Toby Mitchell. We prefer he would not come to our rooms and (it) was made very clear to him that will not happen again," Gale said.

"We have a duty to provide a safe work place for all of our staff and stakeholders.

"But, so far as who Jakes mixes with in his own time and his own private capacity, that's up to him and that's the choices he makes provided he acts in a lawful way, doesn't involve other players.

"We are very proud of Jake, from where he has come from, to where he is today but at the end of the day they are choices he has to make and he has to live with."

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2051685/jake-king-free-to-make-his-own-decisions-tigers/?cs=12

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Re: Richmond footballer Jake King snubs club bikie ban on Toby Mitchell (H-Sun)
« Reply #110 on: January 28, 2014, 08:51:52 PM »
Finally, common sense prevails.... :clapping
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Richmond concedes it cannot stop Jake King associating with Bandios figure Toby Mitchell

    Jon Ralph
    From: Herald Sun
    January 29, 2014


RICHMOND has conceded it cannot stop Jake King associating with bikes despite continuing angst over the forward's links with Bandidos figure Toby Mitchell.

King has been seen in public with Mitchell twice since the Herald Sun revealed last year he had been counselled against bringing the former bikie enforcer into Richmond's change rooms.

But Tigers chief executive Brendon Gale said last night the club would not ban him from continued meetings with former Bandidos sergeant-at-arms Mitchell.

And the AFL has no plans to step in, saying yesterday the Mitchell-King friendship was a matter for Richmond.

The notorious Mitchell has twice survived attempts on his life. He was shot in March last year and also five times outside a Brunswick gym in 2011.

Gale said yesterday he would prefer King did not meet with Mitchell.

"I have been open with Jake," Gale said.

"I would prefer he wouldn't meet with these people in light of the (Australian Crime Commission) report and Essendon last year, but they are Jake's choices, and he has got to own them.

"There is a real community concern about organised crime and the involvement of bikie gangs and I can understand that, but we have never issued a warning to Jake about who he can mix with and who he can't mix with.

"We haven't issued any bans. Jake brought Toby Mitchell into the rooms and it was made clear to him it will never happen again. We have a duty to provide a safe workplace but in terms of who he mixes with in his own capacity, that's up to him."

King and Mitchell have been long-term friends, with the bikie encouraging the Richmond forward to follow his dream to play AFL.

But the Tigers cannot warn Mitchell off, and are aware of King's rights as a player.

"We have legal duties as an employer and we can have whatever rules we think are reasonable (within the club). (But) it is a clear distinction (outside the club),'' Gale told 3AW.

An AFL spokesman told the Herald Sun the league supported Richmond's position.

"As Richmond has said, (Mitchell) can't have any role around the club and cannot be on club premises, and they can give (King) advice on what he does, but ultimately what he does (in this situation) is up to him."

The ACC's report into Australian sport in February last year specifically warned about links between organised crime and sport.

"Overseas experience has demonstrated that criminal identities and groups will invest years developing such relationships, with the ultimate aim of having the athlete participate in activities such as match-fixing,'' it stated.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-concedes-it-cannot-stop-jake-king-associating-with-bandios-figure-toby-mitchell/story-fndv8t7m-1226812378952

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Re: Richmond footballer Jake King snubs club bikie ban on Toby Mitchell (H-Sun)
« Reply #112 on: January 29, 2014, 06:59:36 AM »
Sensible approach by Gale.

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Re: Richmond footballer Jake King snubs club bikie ban on Toby Mitchell (H-Sun)
« Reply #113 on: January 29, 2014, 08:55:13 AM »
Conceded

 Ralph is a flog. Hope he does a polak and headbutts a tram

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Re: Richmond footballer Jake King snubs club bikie ban on Toby Mitchell (H-Sun)
« Reply #114 on: January 29, 2014, 09:21:54 AM »
Dan Richardson was on SEN this morning and said the same thing as Benny Gale did. And that is outside of the Club they cannot stop Jake from seeing whoever he likes. They can counsel and advise but cannot enforce any ban outside of the club
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Re: Richmond footballer Jake King snubs club bikie ban on Toby Mitchell (H-Sun)
« Reply #115 on: January 29, 2014, 09:27:23 AM »
Conceded

 Ralph is a flog. Hope he does a polak and headbutts a tram

Agree, i'm listening to him now on SEN. Absolute moron.
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Re: Richmond footballer Jake King snubs club bikie ban on Toby Mitchell (H-Sun)
« Reply #116 on: January 29, 2014, 09:45:58 AM »
Will cry  like a take victim when infraction notice s are handed out

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Re: Richmond footballer Jake King snubs club bikie ban on Toby Mitchell (H-Sun)
« Reply #117 on: January 29, 2014, 09:56:21 AM »
Conceded

 Ralph is a flog. Hope he does a polak and headbutts a tram

Agree, i'm listening to him now on SEN. Absolute moron.

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Re: Richmond footballer Jake King snubs club bikie ban on Toby Mitchell (H-Sun)
« Reply #118 on: January 31, 2014, 12:47:11 AM »
Teammate Daniel Jackson yesterday said he understood some of the disapproval, but was adamant King should be able to socialise with Mitchell outside the club.

Jackson said it would only become a worry for the club if King went outside the law.

"I think it is unreasonable for any workplace to say who their employees can and can't hang out with and the footy club's come out and said they have got no issue," Jackson said on 3AW yesterday.

"But of course there is a line there. Are you hanging out and socialising? That's fine.

"If you are engaging in any kind of activity that's going to be illegal or bring the club into disrepute then of course they can come in and say no.

"So there are boundaries which have been put in place.

"Toby is not allowed to be brought into the rooms but he can go and socialise with whoever he wants."

Jackson said people needed to respect the fact that King and Mitchell have been long-time friends.

"He (King) has known him (Mitchell) before he has played football," he said.

"It's a tough one and I can understand why people get riled about it.

"If he has got friends that he has grown up with you can't ask them to be disloyal to them."

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-forward-jake-king-in-line-for-contract-extension/story-fndv8t7m-1226814267683

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Big tick for Richmond over Jake King's bikie friend Toby Mitchell (Age)
« Reply #119 on: February 01, 2014, 05:16:37 AM »
Big tick for Richmond over Jake King's bikie friend Toby Mitchell

   Martin Flanagan
    The Age
    February 1, 2014


King and Richmond fans know parameters.

Jake King has given Richmond a lot. The Tigers have character and he's one of the reasons why.

Chest out, eyes ablaze, he patrols the forward line like a small armoured vehicle. He's fearless and he burns with a deep passion. He's a little man who makes bigger men think twice. Looking down from footy Valhalla, I have no doubt Richmond legend Jack Dyer would approve of the way Jake King plays the game

He's got skills, too. Last year, I thought he kicked a number of goals that in previous seasons he would have missed because of their degree of difficulty. Indeed, last season he produced a fine edge to his play and that is something else about him as a player - he's getting better. In 2013, he went from being a player who made up the numbers to one who was central to the chemistry of a winning Richmond team. If you were a Tiger fan or a club administrator, you wouldn't want to lose him.

King has refused to sever his association with former notorious Bandidos motorbike club member Toby Mitchell. Having some knowledge of how King is regarded by his teammates and by others within the Richmond club, my impression is that the player strongly believes he's doing nothing wrong. Indeed, I imagine that, by King's code, the wrong thing to do would be to walk away from a friend just because he's a media target.

As one of King's teammates once remarked of him, "He doesn't take a lot of things as seriously as other people - but when he does, he takes them more seriously than other people do." In the dying stages of Terry Wallace's tenure as coach of Richmond, with the soap opera being played daily in the media as if little else in the world mattered, King was seriously upset by a story which alleged - incorrectly - that he had fronted Wallace along with captain Chris Newman and requested Wallace resign. I'd say Jake King has strong doubts about the media.

He may believe the bad publicity about outlaw bikie groups is a beat-up by the media and certain politicians. But there is a lot of evidence to the contrary. Richmond CEO Brendon Gale said this week that he had discussed with King the contents of the Australian Crime Commission report which sounded the alarm about links between organised crime, bikie gangs and professional sport.

Richmond and King have clearly come to an agreement. They're not going to tell him who he can socialise with, but he has been warned. Gale was quoted in this newspaper as saying, "So far as who Jake mixes with in his own time and his own private capacity, that's up to him and that's the choices he makes provided he acts in a lawful way, and doesn't involve other players."

Referring to the incident last year, when King took Toby Mitchell into the Richmond rooms, Gale said, "We prefer he would not come to our rooms and [it] was made very clear to him that will not happen again. We have a duty to provide a safe workplace for all of our staff and stakeholders." The last sentence is an oblique reference to the fact that Mitchell has survived two murder attempts.

Having an AFL player being seen in public with a figure like Mitchell is not a good "look" for the club, or the AFL. Nonetheless, I believe Brendon Gale's statement is an example of sound footy management. Signing up for a career in the AFL is not the same as entering North Korea. You don't forfeit all rights and liberties.

Last year, Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon asked a pertinent question: ''What is my right to play moral policeman about what they [AFL players] do, in the sanctuary of their home, in the off-season? There is no moral right." As he pointed out, the only right which exists - he was speaking in relation to the AFL's drug policy - is the contractual one arising from the AFL player contract. He also admitted that the impetus for the AFL and its clubs to control their players' private lives to this extent came from the need to keep sponsors happy.

The threat posed by outlaw bikie gangs to Australia is a much more serious matter than a few players' activities in their downtime. Jake King has made a stand but each time he is seen with Mitchell the issue will flare. As for Richmond supporters, they've been warned too. Here, in clear and simple language, are the terms upon which one of their favourite players stays at the club.

Football clubs are not an extension of polite society, however much they are pressured to become so. They take young men from all manner of social backgrounds - as they should. To do otherwise further reduces an already diminishing talent pool. It also detracts from the claim of the game to be truly and wholly Australian.

Privileged people often forget how privileged they are and if AFL clubs take young men from all backgrounds, then it follows that there is inevitably going to be trouble now and then. When that happens, it is best dealt with, as in this case, in a calm and sober manner.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/big-tick-for-richmond-over-jake-kings-bikie-friend-toby-mitchell-20140131-31sjn.html