Richmond receives no compo for losing Matthew White [updated]

[one-eyed]

Get a grip- Matt White couldn't even get a regular game in our starting 18 this year. And we still have some very average players doing so.
Age has nothing to do with it, he simply isn't much chop.

But the AFL said the reason was due White's age  .

[Smokey]

Smokey, Port offered White 3-years on $300k p.a.

So age must have a much bigger impact than we think or else it just doesn't make sense.  What do you think Sylvia and Del Santo would be on at their new clubs?  Both signed 3 year deals and my guess would be Sylvia ~$450k per year and Del Santo maybe $550k.  Sylvia is 27 and Del Santo is 29 yet both are R2 compo picks so you would think they can't be too far apart in $$'s.  The more I think about it the more it just doesn't gel with the criteria the AFL use.

[Muscles]

So which pick did we end up paying for The Hampster?  It started out as Pick 28 ..... did it end up as 34-ish?

Still nothing to write home about ......

[Smokey]

You can't realistically be any younger than 26 to be a restricted free agent because you can't get drafted until you are almost 18.  It must work against you being younger but I would have thought it should work for you - the younger the player you lose, the more valuable he was because of potential years of service left.  He must have gone to Port for peanuts is all I can think because that doesn't fit with other compo picks in the past.

Smoke, you have been on fire in this thread! 
I wish you were doing the compo  for us for the White loss, we would have Boyd for sure. 

Yeah, I got the pick wrong big time but I'm having a hard time reconciling it with what the AFL state as their criteria against all the picks handed out.  If it is as the say, based purely on value of the new contract and players age then they must put a much higher premium on the older age and I honestly thought it would be the other way around.  And it makes even less sense if that is the case when I can't see Sylvia being on the same money as Dal Santo plus Del Santo is 2 year older.

[big tone]

You can't realistically be any younger than 26 to be a restricted free agent because you can't get drafted until you are almost 18.  It must work against you being younger but I would have thought it should work for you - the younger the player you lose, the more valuable he was because of potential years of service left.  He must have gone to Port for peanuts is all I can think because that doesn't fit with other compo picks in the past.

Smoke, you have been on fire in this thread! 
I wish you were doing the compo  for us for the White loss, we would have Boyd for sure. 

Yeah, I got the pick wrong big time but I'm having a hard time reconciling it with what the AFL state as their criteria against all the picks handed out.  If it is as the say, based purely on value of the new contract and players age then they must put a much higher premium on the older age and I honestly thought it would be the other way around.  And it makes even less sense if that is the case when I can't see Sylvia being on the same money as Dal Santo plus Del Santo is 2 year older.

Agreed, not much logic.

[one-eyed]

So which pick did we end up paying for The Hampster?  It started out as Pick 28 ..... did it end up as 34-ish?

Still nothing to write home about ......

It moved down 4 spots to pick 32.

[Rampstar]

just makes us giving away our pick for hampster even worse. In reality White and McGuane werent worth anything. Deep down we all knew that anyway.

[one-eyed]

Smokey, Port offered White 3-years on $300k p.a.

So age must have a much bigger impact than we think or else it just doesn't make sense.  What do you think Sylvia and Del Santo would be on at their new clubs?  Both signed 3 year deals and my guess would be Sylvia ~$450k per year and Del Santo maybe $550k.  Sylvia is 27 and Del Santo is 29 yet both are R2 compo picks so you would think they can't be too far apart in $$'s.  The more I think about it the more it just doesn't gel with the criteria the AFL use.

My only guess Smokey is they really judged it on the criteria of games played and stats over their respective careers. The age argument used by the AFL makes no sense as White is the youngest.


White -      16 games in 2013 at 12.6 disposals. Career: 105 games at 12.3 disp. ( 8 years)

Sylvia -      19 games in 2013 at 19.4 disposals. Career: 157 games at 17.2 disp. (10 years)

Dal Santo - 22 games in 2013 at 24.8 disposals. Career: 260 games at 22.5 disp. (12 years)

[Rampstar]

Richmond needs to guarantee itself a decent pick in the first round. This year could be a disaster draft and trade wise. Club needs to try and upgrade its pick in the first round next week and get itself into the top 10. We could very well end up getting no good players in this years trade and draft effort.

[wayne]

Haha age? Why not just tell the truth, he is a fringe player and not worth compo. How can he be too old when it is his 1st year eligible for FA?

[Hard Roar Tiger]

just makes us giving away our pick for hampster even worse. In reality White and McGuane werent worth anything. Deep down we all knew that anyway.

Can't argue with that

[Rampstar]

just makes us giving away our pick for hampster even worse. In reality White and McGuane werent worth anything. Deep down we all knew that anyway.

Can't argue with that

you never agree with me on anything you been on the pee tonight or something HRT?

[Hard Roar Tiger]

If we are honest, White and McGuane are team mascots. White was the best in comp at running to the interchange bench but that won't help with an compo pick.

[Rampstar]

If we are honest, White and McGuane are team mascots. White was the best in comp at running to the interchange bench but that won't help with an compo pick.

thats actually pretty right but on our forums the supporters are going ape droppings because the AFL didnt give us a pick. to be honest I think the club also expected a pick and thats why they gave our 2nd rounder to carlton.

[Francois Jackson]

If we are honest, White and McGuane are team mascots. White was the best in comp at running to the interchange bench but that won't help with an compo pick.

thats actually pretty right but on our forums the supporters are going ape droppings because the AFL didnt give us a pick. to be honest I think the club also expected a pick and thats why they gave our 2nd rounder to carlton.

posted this exact thing elsewhere Ramps.

I think we scored an own goal too and completely shot ourselves in the foot.