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Re: Sam Lloyd [merged]
« Reply #450 on: July 22, 2016, 12:42:00 AM »
Relax.

We have an iceberg they've been hiding.
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Re: Sam Lloyd [merged]
« Reply #451 on: July 22, 2016, 12:43:07 AM »
First the titanic, next Hawthorn :shh

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Re: Sam Lloyd [merged]
« Reply #452 on: July 22, 2016, 08:28:35 AM »

Hurley needs to be our main focus. Pay what it takes!!

I agree with you and reckon they made an significant offer to his management.

but what will your reaction be if he simply says "no thanks" and turns down our offer(s). Will you whack (blame) the club or accept the Hurley decision. There is a chance we could offer him a million bucks a year and he still knocks us back to stay with Bombers.
It's hard not knowing what our offer to him has been but I would expect they keep raising it till he changes his mind.
If our offer is the same as the Bombers and any other club, why would he choose us. Our offer needs to blow away the other clubs offers. It's a business and it needs to be treated as a business deal. We cannot worry about what Cotch or Dusty are getting paid compared to our offer to Hurley. IMO we spend far to much time not wanting to hurt people's feelings as a club. 

Offer him the captaincy, offer him a coaching roll after footy is finished, offer his sister a night with Dusty, but play dirty like the Collingwoods of this world do. Eddie is a lot of things but he makes things happen. We need to be ruthless!!

With hopefully Vickery and Griff being traded out we could pay Hurley a mil easy over the next 5 years. Forget about Prestia get Hurley signed first and then see what's what. The other reason we can afford to pay him overs is because he is free in terms of draft picks. That has got to be worth paying extra for.

Just think if we could get Hurley for nothing, keep our first pick (hopefully a top 5 pick), trade out an injured and aging Lids for another top 10 pick, trade out Griff and Vickery for picks in the late teens early 20's, swap Conca for Longer, and also trade  BEllis, Houli and Grigg out and get in some quality kids we can turn this thing around pretty quickly.

So it looks something like this- Hurley, pick 5 (our pick), pick 7 (Lids), pick 18 (Griff), pick 23 (our pick), pick 25 (Vickery), Longer, pick 27 (BEllis) , pick 40 (Houli), pick 41 (our pick) and pick pick 50 (Grigg)
I'd even trade a few more for potential top 20 picks- Lennon and Edwards.

But to answer your question, yes I will blame the club. It has promised us all so much but delivered nothing, it's time for no more excuses and it's time to get it done NO MATTER WHAT!

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Re: Sam Lloyd [merged]
« Reply #453 on: July 22, 2016, 09:03:51 AM »
WHAT ABOUT IF THEY CANT

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Re: Sam Lloyd [merged]
« Reply #454 on: July 22, 2016, 11:38:57 AM »
WHAT ABOUT IF THEY CANT

That was my point, thanks Chucky

As an example every man and his dog knew a number of clubs offered Dangerfield lots more money than Geelong but he said No

Sometimes money can't buy or get you everything
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Re: Sam Lloyd [merged]
« Reply #455 on: July 22, 2016, 03:05:42 PM »
WHAT ABOUT IF THEY CANT

That was my point, thanks Chucky

As an example every man and his dog knew a number of clubs offered Dangerfield lots more money than Geelong but he said No

Sometimes money can't buy or get you everything
I think I answered your question.
Without knowing every detail and obviously that isn't going to happen, I would assume the RFC has failed again. It's pretty easy to imagine too by the way just going off past experiences.

What if he goes to St. Kilda or The Doggies, would you still think we did everything we could to have got him??

Using the Dangerfield example is a little different IMO. He left Adelaide to go home which may as well be in another state if it's Geelong.
Hurley will be leaving to get away from the Bombers... and for a better deal.

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Re: Sam Lloyd [merged]
« Reply #456 on: July 22, 2016, 03:53:28 PM »

Sometimes money can't buy or get you everything

Darling, sometimes it can't buy you anything :-*
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Re: Sam Lloyd [merged]
« Reply #457 on: July 22, 2016, 05:51:12 PM »
Wasn't it ten years ago or there abouts we had 5 picks in the top 20 including 2 in the top 4, what's the chance of 1 out of 5 again - drafting is a big gamble

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Re: Sam Lloyd [merged]
« Reply #458 on: July 22, 2016, 07:09:27 PM »
offer him half our salary cap. just get it done. worry about salary cap ramifications later
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Re: Sam Lloyd [merged]
« Reply #459 on: July 23, 2016, 03:14:14 PM »
offer him half our salary cap. just get it done. worry about salary cap ramifications later
He is the saviour, not just a naughty boy!!!!!

hurley?

delist grigg houli hampson chaplin yarren? morris and thats ample money

whats the point loading up on potatoes when you can only have 18 on the ground at once . list blockers is not stability nor depth

flags are won from the back rance and hurley is a good start
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Re: Sam Lloyd [merged]
« Reply #460 on: July 23, 2016, 06:15:00 PM »
Chaplin has retired effective immediately Bents, whilst delisting him would be heart warming I don't think you can after he has retired

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Re: Sam Lloyd [merged]
« Reply #461 on: July 23, 2016, 06:24:19 PM »
Chaplin has retired effective immediately Bents, whilst delisting him would be heart warming I don't think you can after he has retired
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Re: Sam Lloyd [merged]
« Reply #462 on: July 23, 2016, 06:25:28 PM »
offer him half our salary cap. just get it done. worry about salary cap ramifications later
He is the saviour, not just a naughty boy!!!!!

hurley?

delist grigg houli hampson chaplin yarren? morris and thats ample money

whats the point loading up on potatoes when you can only have 18 on the ground at once . list blockers is not stability nor depth

flags are won from the back rance and hurley is a good start
thats what im saying.

lets have a list of 25 players and we can pay hurly half our salary cap. premiership would be in the bag
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Re: Sam Lloyd [merged]
« Reply #463 on: July 23, 2016, 07:46:57 PM »
it is almost like this place is like a flexible think tank that just excretes ideas!
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Sam Lloyd - 50th game tonight
« Reply #464 on: July 08, 2017, 07:19:54 PM »
Lloydy is playing his 50th tonight.