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Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« on: November 21, 2013, 08:39:50 PM »
Francis Jackson on SEN just now:

Lennon - We are very pleased. Very nervous waiting for the picks before to pan out. Rate Lennon highly and spent a week with us. Lids texted FJ to draft Lennon.

Gordon - played senior footy for North Adelaide. Very good work ethic. Connection with Gordon via Shane Edwards' dad so we tracked him.

Lloyd - kicked 100 goals for Deniliquin three years ago. Then played for Mt Eliza where FJ watched him. Then moved to Frankston and impressed there. Smart footballer.

We'll meet tomorrow about the rookie draft and there's still capable players available. We'll have 3 rookie picks.

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2013, 09:48:02 PM »
WTF!  What are we doing?  Drafting recycled and aged recruit in the main draft?
Rookie draft maybe, pre season draft much better but national draft, that's where you draft kids.  At first look its looks like the clubs gone nuts!

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2013, 09:49:24 PM »
Topping up

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2013, 10:01:05 PM »

FJ has gone completely mad this year. IMHO.  Effectively we have recruited 1 kid this year in lennon. 1 recycled in gordon, 1 older player in Lloyd and 1 structural player in Hampson.

This years recruiting is dooming our future years to having an age gap in the list, such as Wallace inherited and also left behind.  Madness!.  We will be St Kilda esque in a few years if they keep doing this, age heavy and destined to bring up the bottom of the ladder.

This is so like the Frawley years recruiting.

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2013, 10:02:45 PM »
Yep let's take 18yo players we don't rate over players we rate. Lmao draft time. Always a laugh.

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2013, 10:06:49 PM »
In a few years these guys will all be early to late 20's IE in their prime simultaneously. Good drafting IMO.

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2013, 10:10:41 PM »
In a few years these guys will all be early to late 20's IE in their prime simultaneously. Good drafting IMO.

Bro, they're just forward pockets ffs
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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2013, 10:12:00 PM »

FJ has gone completely mad this year. IMHO.  Effectively we have recruited 1 kid this year in lennon. 1 recycled in gordon, 1 older player in Lloyd and 1 structural player in Hampson.

This years recruiting is dooming our future years to having an age gap in the list, such as Wallace inherited and also left behind.  Madness!.  We will be St Kilda esque in a few years if they keep doing this, age heavy and destined to bring up the bottom of the ladder.

This is so like the Frawley years recruiting.

12-15 years from now we are screwed. Screwed I tell thee!

(Lennon vlastuin Ellis conca martin etc.)
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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2013, 10:14:14 PM »
Yep let's take 18yo players we don't rate over players we rate. Lmao draft time. Always a laugh.
you know as well as anyone how hard ive pushed the mature recruit state league barrow 2011. but people have a pretty valid point imo.  there was some pretty decent picks to be had at pick 50 at least.

1st 2nd and 3rd rounds are for kids. having traded out of the second rnd id have thought our 3rd rounder pick 50 had to go to a kid.

mature recruits are great imo but its always been about where you take em.  some would argue pick 50 onwards is late enough but this yr i disagree.
i really believe the two players we took at 50 and 66 would have been available to us in the rookie draft.

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2013, 10:15:31 PM »
Jackson clearly just gets out the dartboard after round one of the draft.
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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2013, 10:19:47 PM »
In a few years these guys will all be early to late 20's IE in their prime simultaneously. Good drafting IMO.

Bro, they're just forward pockets ffs

Well Lennon will possibly end up being a mid-sized forward/mid. And they've grabbed some small forwards. And Hampson for ruck/KPF.

IMO that's addressing our current needs.

What did you want, another KPD?

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2013, 10:20:44 PM »
Yep let's take 18yo players we don't rate over players we rate. Lmao draft time. Always a laugh.
you know as well as anyone how hard ive pushed the mature recruit state league barrow 2011. but people have a pretty valid point imo.  there was some pretty decent picks to be had at pick 50 at least.

1st 2nd and 3rd rounds are for kids. having traded out of the second rnd id have thought our 3rd rounder pick 50 had to go to a kid.

mature recruits are great imo but its always been about where you take em.  some would argue pick 50 onwards is late enough but this yr i disagree.
i really believe the two players we took at 50 and 66 would have been available to us in the rookie draft.

What you believe and what would actually happen are 2 completely different things.

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2013, 10:22:48 PM »

FJ has gone completely mad this year. IMHO.  Effectively we have recruited 1 kid this year in lennon. 1 recycled in gordon, 1 older player in Lloyd and 1 structural player in Hampson.

This years recruiting is dooming our future years to having an age gap in the list, such as Wallace inherited and also left behind.  Madness!.  We will be St Kilda esque in a few years if they keep doing this, age heavy and destined to bring up the bottom of the ladder.

This is so like the Frawley years recruiting.
I see what you are saying but I also agree with tigs2011. Draft best available at those late picks regardless of age.
 Next years draft is supposedly very good so not taking heaps of 18 year olds this draft can be fixed pretty easily next year with more decent kids available. And best of all we have only given a few 'border line' players 1 year contracts so if they don't work out next year we will have plenty of room to draft 3, 4, 5, 6 kids.
Well played Tigers!
My biggest concern is we haven't drafted any decent GENUINE mids in the last 4 years with our first picks. Kids that just rack up kicks week in week out at there level. IMO Cotch is our only decent genuine mid on our list. All the rest are half forwards, wingman or half backs first and midfielders second.
Our second tire midfield is coming together nicely with the likes of Dusty, Conca and Vlastuin but to be top four our starting midfield needs some adding too.
Pick 12 IMO would have been a great place to start.

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2013, 10:26:16 PM »
Richmond

"We scanned the pool and ranked the players and felt perhaps this draft wasn't all that deep, so we did look at a few experienced players consequently. It wasn't specific we'd go for mature-aged but we felt the draft dropped off a fair bit and obviously we didn't have a second round pick in trading for Shaun Hampson so with those back-end picks, we were looking for players who could compete and are perhaps ready to go." – Francis Jackson, recruiting manager

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-21/2013-draft-what-the-clubs-said#tigers


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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2013, 10:26:51 PM »

FJ has gone completely mad this year. IMHO.  Effectively we have recruited 1 kid this year in lennon. 1 recycled in gordon, 1 older player in Lloyd and 1 structural player in Hampson.

This years recruiting is dooming our future years to having an age gap in the list, such as Wallace inherited and also left behind.  Madness!.  We will be St Kilda esque in a few years if they keep doing this, age heavy and destined to bring up the bottom of the ladder.

This is so like the Frawley years recruiting.
How dare you challenge the merit of fj s selections. This pool only ran 12 deep after that it was anyone's. How on earth we managed to snaffle a couple of rare talents is a credit to our team and my feet still haven't touched the ground with our warehouse chokkas with some of the best talent in the land,  :shh
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