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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #60 on: November 25, 2013, 05:01:21 PM »
Black Highlighters are pretty effective also. CIA use them all the time so they can't be that bad.....

Selection #50....player number..... WTF????? Oh just give us Taylor Petrenko!
Did Taylor get picked up on Thrsday or is he waiting for Wednesday. Geez I hope gets picked up. More talent than a retirement village woah.  :shh

tigs The waters are very muddy over whether he is still contracted to Norf or not. Apparently his legal team is debating that a signature in crayon is not legally binding and that he is free to take his place in the rookie draft but Norf have declared that they sign all their contracts in Crayon! So this is a watershed moment for them for if it is found that Crayon signatures are not legal then All Norf contracts are null and void.
If Norf want to do contracts in Crayon they should bloody well highlight that clause in the contract.  :banghead Preferably in Pink.  :shh
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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #61 on: November 25, 2013, 05:55:50 PM »
Black Highlighters are pretty effective also. CIA use them all the time so they can't be that bad.....

Selection #50....player number..... WTF????? Oh just give us Taylor Petrenko!
Did Taylor get picked up on Thrsday or is he waiting for Wednesday. Geez I hope gets picked up. More talent than a retirement village woah.  :shh

I heard he went to Manly for ~$450k?    :whistle

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #62 on: November 25, 2013, 09:09:16 PM »
Claw, who said Gordon was the only player we were tracking, could have been tracking 10 and the other 9 were taken , a fairly simple minded assumption he was the only player in Australia we were following  ::)
no one not even me. they took gordon at 50 because they thought someone else might take him  when clearly this was not likely.  i always thought you take kids with your better picks and mature types with with basically nothing picks unless they are are outstanding.it does look like every other club has followed this rule. no matter how well state league players have performed the vast majority have been taken way past pick 50 usually in the rookie draft.

in essence what are we arguing about here.
 
i wanted us to actually take at the minimum 2 kids ideally 3  with picks 12 and 50  possibly 66 after trading for a 26 yo with pick 32.
im certain it would have been possible to achieve
12 lennon, 50 sicily/templeton/marsh. 66 templeton marsh darcy.  id be happy with anyone of them. then at 78 gordon. 88 lloyd.

or another way
12 lennon, 50 gordon, 66 marsh, 78 templeton, 88 lloyd.  people dont get it its the overall process.

i had a mate ring me up today a wce supporter and he asked. were you happy with who you took??. i said yes and no. he asked what do you mean. and i explained we took just one kid in the trade nd period and he was totally gobsmacked.

i  dont know about others but i  remember 1995 clearly and 2001. we made finals both yrs had high finishes but a blind man could see the lists on both occasions  was ordinary, yet we proceeded to trade for players and assume the list was good enough on both occasions harsh reality hit us hard.
come 2013 and the similarities are scary.

its not the taking of mature players that has seen improvement though that has helped but the process of going thru enough top 50 picks on kids that has seen us grow. we have been good at keeping a balance between mature  players and kids and where we have taken each  group,   that has changed.  it is as if we are locked and loaded  thats to me is unbelievable.
why change something that has worked and taken us from a laughing stock to pretty competetive most of the time.

rebuilding our list is only 50 60% done if we want to win a premiership we had damn well better improve significantly each yr over the next 3 or 4 seasons. you can bet your bottom dollar our competitors will.

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #63 on: November 25, 2013, 11:09:15 PM »
Not much wrong with the list in 1996 Claw....just the club got rid of the one coach the players were actually " playing for" and replaced him with a knob from Carlton .

2002....well that's a different story.

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #64 on: November 25, 2013, 11:12:11 PM »
no one not even me. they took gordon at 50 because they thought someone else might take him  when clearly this was not likely. 
Rubbish. They took him because he was best available on our list.

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #65 on: November 25, 2013, 11:15:59 PM »
Claw, I personally think you just like to complain. It wouldn't matter what we did, you would find something.
The truth be known, FJ hasn't picked a decent player outside of our first pick for a while. The kids he has picked outside of the first pick are not the reason we have improved. It's been the mature players that have help us plus a good kid in the first round.
Picking up mature kids with picks 50 and 60 odd is not the same as 1995 and 2001, so comparing that to this year is dumb, even for you.
I'm really happy with both those picks and I'm  not just one to applaud everything the RFC does just for the sake of it, at the very least they will put pressure on better players to preform week in week out to keep their spots.
We are better than you give us credit for and it's becoming really boring listening to you whine about every decision the RFC makes. It's ok to have an opinion but you are the most negative poster on here. If you don't enjoy what the RFC offers, stick to talking about mature age kids from the WAFL.
The funny thing is you probably see one game the Tigers play a year live and you only see what the TV wants you to see. You talk about footy like you read about it in a book. You don't seem to have a very good feel for the game and you are unrealistic about our players ability. Your list on our best 22 and their ability the other day just showed how off the mark you are. You don't win 15 games in a season with a list with your summation of our side.

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #66 on: November 26, 2013, 02:31:22 AM »
Claw, who said Gordon was the only player we were tracking, could have been tracking 10 and the other 9 were taken , a fairly simple minded assumption he was the only player in Australia we were following  ::)
12 lennon, 50 sicily/templeton/marsh. 66 templeton marsh darcy.  id be happy with anyone of them. then at 78 gordon. 88 lloyd.

Yeah, screw list management.  Let's have 40 on our main list in a relatively weak draft.  ::)

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #67 on: November 26, 2013, 08:34:55 AM »
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they took gordon at 50 because they thought someone else might take him
LMFAO

Do you just make this up to justify your constant negative crap or what?

Just because they didn't take the exact players you wanted at each pick, then that means they went different to their own ranking because they were afraid someone else would pick up the player they desperately wanted with a pick 50+ in the draft?

LMFAO.

Thats just truly mental.
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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #68 on: November 26, 2013, 01:44:32 PM »
 :lol It's the truth though al  :shh

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #69 on: November 26, 2013, 01:52:20 PM »
We could win a premiership and claw would say yeah but we didn't win the Grand final sprint.  :banghead

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #70 on: November 26, 2013, 01:55:47 PM »
Black Highlighters are pretty effective also. CIA use them all the time so they can't be that bad.....

Selection #50....player number..... WTF????? Oh just give us Taylor Petrenko!
Did Taylor get picked up on Thrsday or is he waiting for Wednesday. Geez I hope gets picked up. More talent than a retirement village woah.  :shh

I heard he went to Manly for ~$450k?    :whistle

 :lol it was actually the Canberra Raiders that got his prized signature, even though his signature was already on a Norf contract which meant that he couldn't get to the Tiges  :'(

It will be interesting to see whether Taylor will follow in his brother Tysons footsteps and pull on the boxing gloves one day.
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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #71 on: November 26, 2013, 02:05:09 PM »
We could win a premiership and claw would say yeah but we didn't win the Grand final sprint.  :banghead
I understand that though. That'd be a stuffing disgrace.  :lol

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #72 on: November 26, 2013, 02:06:46 PM »
Black Highlighters are pretty effective also. CIA use them all the time so they can't be that bad.....

Selection #50....player number..... WTF????? Oh just give us Taylor Petrenko!
Did Taylor get picked up on Thrsday or is he waiting for Wednesday. Geez I hope gets picked up. More talent than a retirement village woah.  :shh

I heard he went to Manly for ~$450k?    :whistle

 :lol it was actually the Canberra Raiders that got his prized signature, even though his signature was already on a Norf contract which meant that he couldn't get to the Tiges  :'(

It will be interesting to see whether Taylor will follow in his brother Tysons footsteps and pull on the boxing gloves one day.

Goddammit! I'm changing my avatar!  :banghead  Canberra Raiders....Pfft They can have the turncoat!

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #73 on: November 26, 2013, 02:49:22 PM »
Avatar changed!! Hope you get smashed in your first hit up for the Raiders Taylor!  :banghead

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Re: Francis Jackson on SEN post-draft
« Reply #74 on: November 26, 2013, 03:04:08 PM »
Avatar changed!! Hope you get smashed in your first hit up for the Raiders Taylor!  :banghead

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