The fact though, despite their records after being picked up, other clubs are keen to grab our 2013 discards. Almost every player that moved from our list this year was snatched up by other clubs including even Derickx This would certainly indicate to me that other clubs see value in these players to either add to their depth (or as potential backup ups if everything goes to the pooe if you prefer) or believe they can mold them into role players.
Players such as White will become a role player much the same way he was evolving into one at the Tigers. Out of all the players that exited this year I am most disappointed at losing White because he gave us a great deal of run off the HF line and was a wonderful sub at the least.
McGuane is the other that could come back to haunt us as he really does have potential as a third forward. He is strong, leads well and can smash a pack. He will never be a superstar but he is, once again, a handy depth player who can step straight in if injuries hit and can assist young forwards learning their craft in the seconds.
Nahas is another player who could be damaging in a less defensive side and if space is created for him. I think he is a good out for us but again he could be good depth as a rookie for North with their style of game and with so few elusive/fast players on their list.
I think you are missing the point Camboon is making here - the simple fact that other clubs are taking them should be seen as a positive to our list development and the strength of the squad our coaches and recruiters have put together. How they turn out elsewhere is not here or there really.
i believe the point being made stripes, was the fact we have had limited amount of players taken by other clubs prior to jackson as well as in jacksons time. its nothing new. both prior to and in jacksons time there are few due in the main to quality.
i would also argue strongly you cant develop players if they arent good enough to start with. can i ask what type of player are we aiming for with 2nd and 3rd rounders. nothing but role players geez i hope not.
i will take his record even further.
lets look at the rookie draft.
by my figures we have used 35 rookie picks in jacksons time at the club.
by my count there are 25 out right failures.
i only count 3 players who you would classify as passes. king, nahas, and petterd. i also include miller and stephenson based on a pure needs and experience basis. all mature picks.
by my count that leaves 5 50/50 players banfield, miles, thomas, williams, darrou.
just to finish can i ask how do people on here go about judging jacksons last 3 or 4 yrs. do we really try and rate these drafts or is it too early.
for me ive shown patience with t all of our picks from 2010.
2010 -
conca - pass. yes hes a decent player. but there is the question about who we didnt take.
batchelor - 50/50. yep this is where i place him. i dont rate him and think he will struggle because of the weaknesses i see in his game. he could go either way.
helbig - 50/50. just hant been able to make the step up. he is borderline and needs a good yr.
macdonald - fail. well hes gone.
2011
ellis - pass. as we all agree hes taken a decent player in the first rnd.
elton - 50/50. another development player who can say what he will become or even if he will make it.
arnot - 50/50 a small mid who has managed 4 senior games. he may or he may not make it. its what we say about 90% of development players.
2012
vlastuin - pass. see ellis.
mcintosh - 50/50 likely development player.
mcbean - 50/50. some will say pass he looks a likely type.
mcdonough - 50/50again looks likely but hes yet to play a game. how do we judge these kids .
2013
lennon 50/50 hes yet to play game and we dont know what we have at afl level. of all our last 5 first rounders i have most concern over him.
so i will ask again just how do we rate jacksons last 3 or 4 drafts.