compare him to key forwards thats where hes at. i reckon he would be behind most.
His the best KPF from his draft apart from maybe Tom Lynch who had the added benefit of not having to ruck.
lets look at what we have objectively with the blinkers off.
stephenson - at age 31 32 or what ever hes a very short term prospect. imo hes a better ruckman to date than hampson. we need a junior in there now developing in anticipation of him going.
maric - hes 28 we are already having to manage his body he could have 3 yrs left in him he may not hes a short term prospect though imo. again there should be a 20 22 yr old already there developing to take over when ivan goes. this is one reason why i wanted us to go after longer. when ivan goes longer would have been around 23 24 and near his peak
hampson - hes basically 26 one week into the new season. to date hes a failed 7 yr player we have basically taken a risk on 26yo potential. hes a medium term player if he works out. and im not sold yet he will work out and think we should plan accordingly.
thats it we have just 3 first rucks two short termers and a risky medium termer.
we then have a pile of players who the club tells us could be ruckmen but common sense says we know they wont be front line ruckmen.
griffiths - 22 yo battler. its a last gasp thing playing him in the ruck hoping he can become a player. doesnt have the mindset to play there. hes a kpf.
vickery - well ive said my bit on him.to me you can cross him off the ruck list. kpf.
mcbean - 19yo could possibly pinch hit as a ruckman but fair dinkum who rightly believes hes a ruckman or that he will become a front line one. his scenario is similar to vickery imo. club saying we have a ruckman so dont need to recruit a junior. when clearly hes more likely to be a kpp .
im still asking if the likes of vickery griffiths mcbean and elton are all ruck/for where the hell are the developing pure tall forwards.
elton - 20 21yo ? of this second list is the best in the air imo. at 197cm hes going to struggle in the ruck at this level. kpf.
how many of these 4 could realistically take over from ivan and lead the ruck. not one of em.not now or down the track.
I was gonna underline what part of that wasn't objective and was actually your opinion, but I ended up underling practically everything apart from the players name and age and even then some of them you chose to round up. Your opinion isn't more valid than anyone else's and so important that it can be classed as objective.
well ill be. objectivity and opinion are mutually exclusive. none of us would be on here posting if that were the case. unbelievable little tanty right there. but to appease your literary outrage, lets just change the word objective to realistic assumption. at the end of the day its neither here nor there.
oh by the way whos age have i rounded up as of 14/3/14 those ages are correct. i dunno when you work out a lists age but most people do it at the start of rnd 1.
i have to ask.
why dont you think orren is short term?
why do you think maric will last longer than 3yrs? is it not realistic to think at age 28 hes a short term prospect even if he lasts a little longer than 3yrs?
hampson will be 26yo 7 days after the season kicks off. why do you think hampson has had a good career to date? havent we taken him more on potential at 26yo than performance? it seems you obviously think not.
why do you think all of griffiths,elton, mcbean,and vickery could take over from ivan in the ruck.
finally vickery as a kpf has done exactly what. so hes the 2nd best kpf from his yr iyo. does that merely mean it was a poor yr for kpfs. how does he stack up with all kpf at the same age. now that would mean you have to be objective to find the right answer.
being objective to me is looking at both sides of the coin not just focusing on what we like to see and read. but i apologise and thanks for setting me straight. i reckon realistic assumption fits much better anyway. i promise to be more careful from now on about the words i choose.
i will say though, im not sure how realistic assumptions cant also be objective.
