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Re: Vickery, Jack, Conca, Ellis 'didn't stand up' says Hardwick (afl, H-Sun, Age)
« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2014, 09:26:49 AM »
when hardwick gave reasons for playing martin off half back, teaching him to be more defensive wasn't one of them.
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Re: Vickery, Jack, Conca, Ellis 'didn't stand up' says Hardwick (afl, H-Sun, Age)
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2014, 10:03:13 AM »
I actually think the idea has merit IF you are utilising Dusty's strengths; one of which happens to be his long kicking.

Having him on the HBF and seeing him chipping it around from one flank to the other is not taking advantage of his strengths. Actully the opposition would loving it as it isn't hurting them and it gives them time to set up a wall

If you can get the runners actually bloody running HARD and have him deliver it long to a player in space then it works but chipping, zipping and having him playing kick to kick to kick with the others back is the waste IMHO
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Re: Vickery, Jack, Conca, Ellis 'didn't stand up' says Hardwick (afl, H-Sun, Age)
« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2014, 10:58:05 AM »
Quote from: flea03 on March 16, 2014, 08:31:57 AM
impressive performance by our sub when he came on with fresh legs.... missed matty white big time
we will rue the day they traded matty, in fact I rue it now!!!
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Re: Vickery, Jack, Conca, Ellis 'didn't stand up' says Hardwick (afl, H-Sun, Age)
« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2014, 11:24:56 AM »
Quote from: MintOnLamb on March 18, 2014, 10:58:05 AM
Quote from: flea03 on March 16, 2014, 08:31:57 AM
impressive performance by our sub when he came on with fresh legs.... missed matty white big time
we will rue the day they traded matty, in fact I rue it now!!!

If we had traded him ...yeah .... but we didn't trade him

He left under Free Agency (which was his right) and we got zilch in return
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Re: Vickery, Jack, Conca, Ellis 'didn't stand up' says Hardwick (afl, H-Sun, Age)
« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2014, 03:53:26 PM »
Quote from: WilliamPowell on March 18, 2014, 10:03:13 AM
I actually think the idea has merit IF you are utilising Dusty's strengths; one of which happens to be his long kicking.

Having him on the HBF and seeing him chipping it around from one flank to the other is not taking advantage of his strengths. Actully the opposition would loving it as it isn't hurting them and it gives them time to set up a wall

If you can get the runners actually bloody running HARD and have him deliver it long to a player in space then it works but chipping, zipping and having him playing kick to kick to kick with the others back is the waste IMHO

This was one of the most glaring things I saw. I saw dusty and griffiths chipping is around when they should be roosting it 60M over the heads of the zone. All it does if gives time to get players back and fill holes in front of our fowards. What a waste the skills of these players. It also looked like Jack and Vickery were expecting it to be roosted over heads as they were playing from behind.  That said this tatic might not work if you dont go in with any true small fowards. To be honest I thought we drafted to fix this problem and them we dont play a single one. Dont get that.
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Re: Vickery, Jack, Conca, Ellis 'didn't stand up' says Hardwick (afl, H-Sun, Age)
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2014, 04:21:41 PM »
Quote from: Fluffy Tiger on March 18, 2014, 03:53:26 PM
This was one of the most glaring things I saw. I saw dusty and griffiths chipping is around when they should be roosting it 60M over the heads of the zone. All it does if gives time to get players back and fill holes in front of our fowards. What a waste the skills of these players. It also looked like Jack and Vickery were expecting it to be roosted over heads as they were playing from behind.  That said this tatic might not work if you dont go in with any true small fowards. To be honest I thought we drafted to fix this problem and them we dont play a single one. Dont get that.

Agree

Reckon alot of us were left either doing this  :huh3  or  :banghead with some of the selections and or moves (or lack of moves) last week

With probably this  :banghead being a fair way ahead
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Re: Vickery, Jack, Conca, Ellis 'didn't stand up' says Hardwick (afl, H-Sun, Age)
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2014, 04:33:52 PM »
Quote from: WilliamPowell on March 18, 2014, 04:21:41 PM
Agree

Reckon alot of us were left either doing this  :huh3  or  :banghead with some of the selections and or moves (or lack of moves) last week

With probably this  :banghead being a fair way ahead

Ok so it seems we can all see it. That being the case you'd hope the coaches can too. Will they have the cohunas to realise they've got it all wrong and sort it out before it's too late and we're zip and 4 ?
Dusty back to the mid/fwd
Newy back to defence/bench
Jack to FF

Oh and Petterd to the magoos
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Re: Vickery, Jack, Conca, Ellis 'didn't stand up' says Hardwick (afl, H-Sun, Age)
« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2014, 05:28:30 PM »
you seriously want newman back to defence?
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Re: Vickery, Jack, Conca, Ellis 'didn't stand up' says Hardwick (afl, H-Sun, Age)
« Reply #38 on: March 18, 2014, 08:12:20 PM »
Hardwick basically admitted that subbing griffiths off instead of vickery was a mistake.
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Re: Vickery, Jack, Conca, Ellis 'didn't stand up' says Hardwick (afl, H-Sun, Age)
« Reply #39 on: March 18, 2014, 09:22:11 PM »
Quote from: al on March 18, 2014, 08:12:20 PM
Hardwick basically admitted that subbing griffiths off instead of vickery was a mistake.

 what did he say? I haven't heard or seen anything
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Re: Vickery, Jack, Conca, Ellis 'didn't stand up' says Hardwick (afl, H-Sun, Age)
« Reply #40 on: March 18, 2014, 10:07:23 PM »
Quote from: al on March 18, 2014, 08:12:20 PM
Hardwick basically admitted that subbing griffiths off instead of vickery was a mistake.

He did  :huh

Haven't read or heard that anywhere
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Re: Vickery, Jack, Conca, Ellis 'didn't stand up' says Hardwick (afl, H-Sun, Age)
« Reply #41 on: March 18, 2014, 10:20:48 PM »
Quote from: WilliamPowell on March 18, 2014, 10:07:23 PM
Quote from: al on March 18, 2014, 08:12:20 PM
Hardwick basically admitted that subbing griffiths off instead of vickery was a mistake.

He did  :huh

Haven't read or heard that anywhere
I emailed and told him so! :shh
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Re: Vickery, Jack, Conca, Ellis 'didn't stand up' says Hardwick (afl, H-Sun, Age)
« Reply #42 on: March 18, 2014, 10:38:00 PM »
Quote from: WilliamPowell on March 18, 2014, 11:24:56 AM
Quote from: MintOnLamb on March 18, 2014, 10:58:05 AM
Quote from: flea03 on March 16, 2014, 08:31:57 AM
impressive performance by our sub when he came on with fresh legs.... missed matty white big time
we will rue the day they traded matty, in fact I rue it now!!!

If we had traded him ...yeah .... but we didn't trade him

He left under Free Agency (which was his right) and we got zilch in return

Blame conca passenger
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Re: Vickery, Jack, Conca, Ellis 'didn't stand up' says Hardwick (afl, H-Sun, Age)
« Reply #43 on: March 18, 2014, 10:55:22 PM »
Quote from: WilliamPowell on March 18, 2014, 10:07:23 PM
Quote from: al on March 18, 2014, 08:12:20 PM
Hardwick basically admitted that subbing griffiths off instead of vickery was a mistake.

He did  :huh

Haven't read or heard that anywhere
secret video he sent me a link to....
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Re: Vickery, Jack, Conca, Ellis 'didn't stand up' says Hardwick (afl, H-Sun, Age)
« Reply #44 on: March 19, 2014, 06:57:12 AM »
Quote from: al on March 18, 2014, 10:55:22 PM
Quote from: WilliamPowell on March 18, 2014, 10:07:23 PM
Quote from: al on March 18, 2014, 08:12:20 PM
Hardwick basically admitted that subbing griffiths off instead of vickery was a mistake.

He did  :huh

Haven't read or heard that anywhere
secret video he sent me a link to....

Arrrrrrrrrrgh the email I got this morning... "Dimma's Dissection"

Deleted it maybe I should have watched it first  ;D
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