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Our aging list - a problem coming very soon
« on: April 06, 2014, 08:37:21 AM »
This is how old some of our players will be during season 2015 if we dont decide to trade/delist at the end of this season.

15 guys at or a few years off retirement age. Most of which kept getting named in our best 22 atm.

We need to keep getting games into kids wherever possible

Chris Newman 33

Brett Deledio   28

Shaun Grigg   27

Ricky Petterd    27

Bachar Houli   27

Chris Knights 28

Shaun Hampson   27

Matt Thomas 28

Ivan Maric 29

Dan Jackson   29

Troy Chaplin   29

Aaron Edwards 31

Jake King 31

Orren Stephenson 33

Nathan Foley    30


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Re: Our aging list - a problem coming very soon
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2014, 08:51:38 AM »
Brett Deledio is still 26. He turns 27 on April 18. He has shown longevity. He is NOWHERE near retirement.
Houli is 25 and turns 26 next month. Again, he is not old.
You may as well say this for all the teams. In 2015 only the GWS and GC will have the majority of their list below 25.
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Re: Our aging list - a problem coming very soon
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2014, 08:52:47 AM »
Aaron Edwards has just turned 30, not 31

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Re: Our aging list - a problem coming very soon
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2014, 08:59:08 AM »
This is how old some of our players will be during season 2015 if we dont decide to trade/delist at the end of this season.

15 guys at or a few years off retirement age. Most of which kept getting named in our best 22 atm.

We need to keep getting games into kids wherever possible

Chris Newman 33

Brett Deledio   28

Shaun Grigg   27

Ricky Petterd    27

Bachar Houli   27

Chris Knights 28

Shaun Hampson   27

Matt Thomas 28

Ivan Maric 29

Dan Jackson   29

Troy Chaplin   29

Aaron Edwards 31

Jake King 31

Orren Stephenson 33

Nathan Foley    30
The biggest problem about that list is there is only one player that is better than average.

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Re: Our aging list - a problem coming very soon
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2014, 08:59:46 AM »
Jacko is turning 28 this month also.
Dooks is just causing terror. :help

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Re: Our aging list - a problem coming very soon
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2014, 09:06:49 AM »
Jacko is turning 28 this month also.
Dooks is just causing terror. :help
His ages are as of the 2015 season.
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Re: Our aging list - a problem coming very soon
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2014, 09:38:05 AM »
I don't see the issue? The sooner they hit 30+ and stuff off the better. (For most of them)

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Re: Our aging list - a problem coming very soon
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2014, 10:01:09 AM »
Last couple of years been heavily recruiting mature age players need to invest in youth from now on.

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Re: Our aging list - a problem coming very soon
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2014, 10:55:56 AM »
1   Newman, Chris   236   31yr 10mth   18 May 1982   183cm   81kg   Dandenong Stingrays    Defender
37   Stephenson, Orren (R)   15   31yr 8mth   15 Jul 1982   200cm   104kg   -    Ruck
27   Edwards, Aaron   91   30yr 1mth   2 Mar 1984   184cm   93kg   Dandenong Stingrays    Forward
28   King, Jake   107   30yr   26 Mar 1984   178cm   82kg   Coburg Tigers    Forward
41   Foley, Nathan   138   28yr 6mth   8 Sep 1985   178cm   79kg   Geelong Falcons    Midfield
25   Chaplin, Troy   165   28yr 1mth   23 Feb 1986   195cm   99kg   North Ballarat Rebels    Defender


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Re: Our aging list - a problem coming very soon
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2014, 11:02:26 AM »
Chris Newman 33
Brett Deledio   28
Shaun Grigg   27
Ricky Petterd    27
Bachar Houli   27
Chris Knights 28
Shaun Hampson   27

Matt Thomas 28
Ivan Maric 29
Dan Jackson   29
Troy Chaplin   29

Aaron Edwards 31
Jake King 31
Orren Stephenson 33
Nathan Foley    30

Only those players will be playing next year.

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Re: Our aging list - a problem coming very soon
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2014, 11:04:25 AM »
Deledio is 26 so his football life is not quite over as of yet

The only old players that side should be regularly: Maric deledio cotchin Riewoldt, maybe Morris.


Grigg and co. should not be non droppable. Just due to being seniors players / coach favourites

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Re: Our aging list - a problem coming very soon
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2014, 11:09:00 AM »
Newman Edwards Thomas King Stephenson and Foley should all be retired at the end of the season IMHO and replaced by Kids coming through the draft.

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Re: Our aging list - a problem coming very soon
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2014, 11:26:03 AM »
A secondary issue is the mid range


23   Jackson, Daniel   147   27yr 11mth   25 Apr 1986   188cm   92kg   Oakleigh Chargers    Midfield
15   Knights, Chris   101   27yr 6mth   25 Sep 1986   184cm   84kg   Eastern Ranges    Forward
19   Thomas, Matt (R)   90   27yr 1mth   27 Feb 1987   186cm   87kg   Port Adelaide    Midfield
16   Hampson, Shaun   65   26yr   21 Mar 1988   201cm   104kg   Mt Gravatt    Ruck
6   Grigg, Shaun   112   25yr 11mth   19 Apr 1988   190cm   85kg   Nth Ballarat    Midfield
14   Houli, Bachar   94   25yr 10mth   12 May 1988   180cm   84kg   Western    Defender
13   Petterd, Ricky   69   25yr 8mth   24 Jul 1988   185cm   85kg   Broadbeach    Defender
10   Edwards, Shane   132   25yr 5mth   25 Oct 1988   182cm   83kg   Nth Adelaide    Midfield
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Re: Our aging list - a problem coming very soon
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2014, 11:27:38 AM »
So much for our recruiting over the last 5 years. Our list is poo.

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Re: Our aging list - a problem coming very soon
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2014, 12:00:09 PM »
So much for our recruiting over the last 5 years. Our list is poo.

Ramps you're spot on with the Moneyball policy.

I'm guessing it was a club decision / direction that they thought was the best thing to compete with GC and GWS as next year GC will be playing finals this year and then looking at top 4 next year and GWS are a year behind them.

If this season continues the way it is, I'd look at doing a Hawthorn and looking to get some gun kids in exchange for our experienced players, Cotchin should be the oldest player in premiership tilt IMO. We stuffed up the 2005 and 06 draft which means Deledio will most likely miss out. I'm a big fan of Brett but I wonder what Fremantle would give up for Deledio in 1-2 years time trying to keep there premiership window open. I know it wouldn't be a popular decision but its just an example of some of the hard decisions the club would need to make if we want to beat GC and GWS cause we are not ready yet.