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Club excited about draft.....


.....ends trade period still with only two picks inside the top 50....
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ffs what dribble. cant even get the number of picks right. with the promotion of Miles we have just 4 live picks in the nd. its hardly a heavy investment.
its a very average investment with largely average picks.

why do they feel the need to spin everything they do. do they think we are all a bunch of morons.

Dan Richardson has been all over the shop the whole trade period. The more he opeens his mouth the more foolish he looks.

and ffs still no mention by anyone of the need to take talls.

if the club thinks
Rance,  Astbury, Chaplin, Grimes, mcintosh  are adequate numbers down back or of high enough quality then they are delusional.
if they think
Riewoldt and Elton are  the only needed genuine kpf then they are totally mistaken. 2 kpf its laughable. we need tall fwds as bad as any club in the comp. and ffs Elton is playing where and was drafted as a what again. oh thats right a ruck/fwd.
if they think
Hammspud is good enough  to take over from maric then they are totally out of their minds. list is screaming out for a quality young ruckman.
finally they have one area right we have a plethora of 200cm  ruck/fwds, griffiths, vickery and mcbean. could even put elton here, they are so so at both roles but master of none.even if we wrongly labeled all three kpfs the numbers are depressingly low.

fair dinkum the list is  5 talls short of what is needed yet alone talk about the quality of those we have. yet the club and it seems most supporters have their head in the sand when it comes to this issue.no one wants to talk about the elephant that is in the room. if they think we only need address mids they are just plain stupid. if supporters are swallowing the tripe being dished up to em then they need to wake up. there are holes all over the list.

depending on whos there i would hope we are not locked and loaded purely on a mid at 12 i hope like hell they are also looking at what talls may fall to our pick.it doesnt seem to be the case.

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Club excited about draft.....


.....ends trade period still with only two picks inside the top 50....
and then theres this. arent people sick of the tripe coming out of their mouths. they do realise just how stupid they sound.

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I tuned out of listening to their drivel yrs ago - we are premiership material when it comes to PR spin and surely have the most gullible supporters in the comp

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Club excited about draft.....


.....ends trade period still with only two picks inside the top 50....
and then theres this. arent people sick of the tripe coming out of their mouths. they do realise just how stupid they sound.

However it turns out, they'll be judged on their results in 2015.

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I tuned out of listening to their drivel yrs ago - we are premiership material when it comes to PR spin and surely have the most gullible supporters in the comp

I tuned out this year. The PR in 2014 was a whole 10 levels up from 2013 and prior to. I just cant take club press releases seriously anymore.

As you say Tony, if supporters can't see the PR for what it actually is, there's a lot of fans with a serious IQ deficiency at play.

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As you say Tony, if supporters can't see the PR for what it actually is, there's a lot of fans with a serious IQ deficiency at play.

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Richmond invested in draft under Hardwick (Age)
« Reply #52 on: October 20, 2014, 03:45:06 AM »
Richmond invested in draft under Hardwick

  Matt Murname
     The Age
    October 20, 2014


Not since Damien Hardwick first arrived at Punt Road has Richmond been as invested in a national draft, and the club admits the pressure is on its recruiting staff to make the right selections.

The Tigers are expected to take five selections to next month's national draft, which would be the most the club has made since the 2010 draft (when Hardwick took over as coach) that landed Reece Conca (pick No.6) and Jake Batchelor (pick No.30).

Since then, the Tigers' strategy has been to bolster the depth on its list by adding players from rival clubs to play specific roles, such as Bachar Houli and Ivan Maric in 2011, Troy Chaplin and Chris Knights in 2012 and Shaun Hampson in 2013.

There was an expectation the Tigers would continue to bring in ready-made talent during the recently concluded trade and free agency period - so as to not let the club's blazing end to 2014 Band-Aid over the holes in the list – however the Tigers were unable to close any deals for established players.

Richmond had identified the need for another inside midfielder to support Trent Cotchin and Anthony Miles, and thus allowing the likes of Dustin Martin, Brett Deledio, Conca and Brandon Ellis to become more damaging on the outside.

The Tigers went close to securing former Melbourne captain Jack Trengove for that purpose – although a medical examination of his troublesome foot injury raised too many alarm bells – and reports also linked the club to North Melbourne's Levi Greenwood and St Kilda's David Armitage. 

Despite the attempts made during the trade period, the Tigers will now turn to the national draft on November 27 where it will hold picks 12, 33, 52, 70, 88 as their top selections to fill vacancies on the list. 

Football manager Dan Richardson said the Tigers had their eye on "three or four" talented young midfielders that are likely to be available for the Tigers' first selection.

The plan will then be to add genuine outside speed with the later picks.

Richardson admitted late last week that "the pressure is on our recruiting staff to do that come November".

The Tigers say it was inevitable the club would invest heavily in the draft sooner or later, given it had made more changes to its list since 2009 than most other clubs.

The club's list build came under intense scrutiny in the middle of last season when Hardwick's team slumped to 16th after round 14.

Even though Richmond pulled off one of the greatest late-season runs ever to claim eighth position, they were thrashed in the elimination final against Port Adelaide and the Tigers were warned not to be seduced by the fast finish in analysing the state of the list.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-invested-in-draft-under-hardwick-20141019-118f5d.html

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When was the last time our picks in the 50s to 80s on youth actually went on to be decent players at the club? I mean, I get the whole investing in youth thing but what's the point when the quality isn't there and the club butchers the selection anyway?

Edit - 11 years. 2003 saw Tuck and Jackson picked up in at pick 73 and 53 respectively. Since then there has 19 selections after pick 50 of youth and not one has been decent.

Based on this, you can just about write off or 3rd, 4th and 5th selections.



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When was the last time our picks in the 50s to 80s on youth actually went on to be decent players at the club? I mean, I get the whole investing in youth thing but what's the point when the quality isn't there and the club butchers the selection anyway?

Edit - 11 years. 2003 saw Tuck and Jackson picked up in at pick 73 and 53 respectively. Skince then there has 19 selections after pick 50 of youth and not one has been decent.

Based on this, you can just about write off or 3rd, 4th and 5th selections.
In all fairness, Dooks, the last few drafts have been plundered before we even get to our late picks.

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When was the last time our picks in the 50s to 80s on youth actually went on to be decent players at the club? I mean, I get the whole investing in youth thing but what's the point when the quality isn't there and the club butchers the selection anyway?

Edit - 11 years. 2003 saw Tuck and Jackson picked up in at pick 73 and 53 respectively. Since then there has 19 selections after pick 50 of youth and not one has been decent.

Based on this, you can just about write off or 3rd, 4th and 5th selections.
The recruiting team has been beefed up with the hiring of Luke Williams. He played sidekick to Stephen Wells down at Geelong for several years so I hope some of his magic has rubbed off on him. :gotigers
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"midfielder to support Trent Cotchin and Anthony Miles, and thus allowing the likes of Dustin Martin, Brett Deledio, Conca and Brandon Ellis to become more damaging on the outside."

Not sure Conca is physically equipped to play outside - if he makes it, he will getting ball and dishing off.
I'm completely baffled why Vlastuin wouldn't be groomed for an inside role, year 3 and another pre season he should be primed for huge 2015 as a mid.
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When was the last time our picks in the 50s to 80s on youth actually went on to be decent players at the club? I mean, I get the whole investing in youth thing but what's the point when the quality isn't there and the club butchers the selection anyway?

Edit - 11 years. 2003 saw Tuck and Jackson picked up in at pick 73 and 53 respectively. Since then there has 19 selections after pick 50 of youth and not one has been decent.

Based on this, you can just about write off or 3rd, 4th and 5th selections.

Could add Foley IMO if you include rookie as later than pick 50

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"midfielder to support Trent Cotchin and Anthony Miles, and thus allowing the likes of Dustin Martin, Brett Deledio, Conca and Brandon Ellis to become more damaging on the outside."

Not sure Conca is physically equipped to play outside - if he makes it, he will getting ball and dishing off.
I'm completely baffled why Vlastuin wouldn't be groomed for an inside role, year 3 and another pre season he should be primed for huge 2015 as a mid.

Don't like agreeing wif ya HRT but you are correct about Vlastuin.

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"midfielder to support Trent Cotchin and Anthony Miles, and thus allowing the likes of Dustin Martin, Brett Deledio, Conca and Brandon Ellis to become more damaging on the outside."

Not sure Conca is physically equipped to play outside - if he makes it, he will getting ball and dishing off.
I'm completely baffled why Vlastuin wouldn't be groomed for an inside role, year 3 and another pre season he should be primed for huge 2015 as a mid.

Hardwic is a flog. He starts grigg at centre bounce ffs

It should be:  cotchin (fwd also), vlasutin, miles, martin (fwd), deledio (fback/fwd too), conca

The problem is the backline is soft and poorly skilled hence ou need for deledio, vlastuin, martin to play behind the ball.

Hopeful #12 can start on a back flank and Lennon plays their also to release vlastuin types

Foley if he plays. Ditto arnot.