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that would be yours.  ;)

my info comes from a person on our table

 :lol :lol

"Our table"

Which table would that be?

And I am very confident in what I know and know we didn't take Jon on Jackson's say

Have heard the same story on how we went about selecting him from 3 different people who would definitely know

So I'll leave it at that
yes  "Our table" so your happy with your source im more than happy with mine. my source is reliable and he was there.

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yes  "Our table" so your happy with your source im more than happy with mine. my source is reliable and he was there.

Thanks for not answering the question about which table. I'll assume you're talking about the RFC table on draft day

Good to know your source was there and is reliable

Mine are reliable too, extremely or so I thought.

Unfortunately not all of them can say they were there so I suppose that makes them totally useless in the reliability stakes   ;D

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All of this aside I'd be interested in how we came to take JON, WP.
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that would be yours.  ;)

my info comes from a person on our table

 :lol :lol

"Our table"

Which table would that be?

And I am very confident in what I know and know we didn't take Jon on Jackson's say

Have heard the same story on how we went about selecting him from 3 different people who would definitely know

So I'll leave it at that

You're both wrong

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You're both wrong

Really?

What a relief  :groucho

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This is ridiculous. Shut your mouth if you don't know the facts.

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LOL hullo Big Fellow.  You don't happen to have rat traps for hands and horses hooves for feet do you? :shh
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LOL hullo Big Fellow.  You don't happen to have rat traps for hands and horses hooves for feet do you? :shh

Are you talking to me? lol :lol

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Why are our draft selections after our first selection usually so poor? So many failures or players who look like they may not cut it.

Seriously, do our recruiters not know what they are doing in terms of identifying talent after our first pick?

Here are a generation of picks (28 no less) who today would mostly range in age from 20-28 who you'd hope maybe a third would be able to add some permanent ongoing depth in the senior list at minimum, as well perhaps 2 or 3 would become very handy players:-

2012:-
Pick 31      Kamdyn Mcintosh           
Pick 42           Matthew Mcdonough

2011:-
Pick 26      Todd Elton   
Pick 55      Matthew Arnot

2010:-
Pick 47      Bradley Helbig       
Pick 51.             Dean MacDonald       
Pick 63      Tom Derickx   
Pick 94           David Gourdis       

2009:-
Pick 44      Matthew Dea   
Pick 51              Troy Taylor       
pick 67      Jeromey Webberley       
pick 74           Ben Nason       
Pick 91              Andrew Browne       

2008:-
Pick 26      Jayden Post   
Pick 58.             Tom Hislop   

2007:-
Pick 51      Dean Putt   

2006:-
Pick 58      Daniel Connors       
Pick 60      Carl Peterson   
Pick 73      Andrew Collins       

2005:-
Pick 24      Cleve Hughes       
Pick 40              Travis Casserly       

2004:-
 Pick 4      Richard Tambling   
 Pick 12      Danny Meyer       
 Pick 16      Adam Pattison       
 Pick 20      Dean Polo   
 Pick 52      Dean Limbach       
 Pick 65.         Mark Graham

Great post

I think, maybe if you gave Lennon, donut, elton, helbig a shot they might show something

Sometimes people play better with good players around them instead of vfl listed spuds
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Why are our draft selections after our first selection usually so poor? So many failures or players who look like they may not cut it.

Seriously, do our recruiters not know what they are doing in terms of identifying talent after our first pick?

Here are a generation of picks (28 no less) who today would mostly range in age from 20-28 who you'd hope maybe a third would be able to add some permanent ongoing depth in the senior list at minimum, as well perhaps 2 or 3 would become very handy players:-

2012:-
Pick 31      Kamdyn Mcintosh           
Pick 42           Matthew Mcdonough

2011:-
Pick 26      Todd Elton   
Pick 55      Matthew Arnot

2010:-
Pick 47      Bradley Helbig       
Pick 51.             Dean MacDonald       
Pick 63      Tom Derickx   
Pick 94           David Gourdis       

2009:-
Pick 44      Matthew Dea   
Pick 51              Troy Taylor       
pick 67      Jeromey Webberley       
pick 74           Ben Nason       
Pick 91              Andrew Browne       

2008:-
Pick 26      Jayden Post   
Pick 58.             Tom Hislop   

2007:-
Pick 51      Dean Putt   

2006:-
Pick 58      Daniel Connors       
Pick 60      Carl Peterson   
Pick 73      Andrew Collins       

2005:-
Pick 24      Cleve Hughes       
Pick 40              Travis Casserly       

2004:-
 Pick 4      Richard Tambling   
 Pick 12      Danny Meyer       
 Pick 16      Adam Pattison       
 Pick 20      Dean Polo   
 Pick 52      Dean Limbach       
 Pick 65.         Mark Graham

Great post

I think, maybe if you gave Lennon, donut, elton, helbig a shot they might show something

Sometimes people play better with good players around them instead of vfl listed spuds

l agree some players just need to be given a chance on the ground. Not this sub thing which is the most stupid thing in football ever. Give the players a go before they lose interest.

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Both McKintosh and McDonuts are turning into fringe thereabouts players. Which probably indicates were getting better at development.  Which is a truly great thing fo
r the club. Neitger may make it long term still but McKintosh in particular  looks better than when this thread started. 

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Would it be fair to say, that whilst JO-N was a complete debacle the Tiges learnt their lesson with regards to player development and acclimatizing; which is to say that D.Martin may not have been looked after the way he has been if not for the earlier failings with J-ON?

Also, I'd say 2 of our best 5 are 2nd/3rd rounders in Edwards and Rance. Still overall agree with the sentiment; just look at Geelong's effort in 2001.