Would it be fair to say, that whilst JO-N was a complete debacle the Tiges learnt their lesson with regards to player development and acclimatizing; which is to say that D.Martin may not have been looked after the way he has been if not for the earlier failings with J-ON?
Also, I'd say 2 of our best 5 are 2nd/3rd rounders in Edwards and Rance. Still overall agree with the sentiment; just look at Geelong's effort in 2001.