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[RedanTiger]

Treloar is not a done deal to Pies, we can get it done via a better trade with GWS! they'd be stupid not to get the most they can for him

Seems to be what all the talk is about.
Collingwood is offering 2015 First and Witts.
Richmond are offering 2015 AND 2016 First.
Allen (ex-Collingwood) accepted the Collingwood offer, getting Treloar to commit to Collingwood, until Gale questioned Matthews as to why GWS took a lesser offer since Witts is really no use to GWS with Mumford and Downie ahead of him. Matthews has obviously thought there is validity to Gale's point and now there's a big blue at GWS between Allen and Matthews over whose interests Allen is really looking after first. As said we're still in this because ALL parties have to agree and any MOU Treloar may have signed to Collingwood also relies on GWS agreeing to the trade.

Any source on this or just word around the traps?

Caroline Wilson on Footy Classified last night and also her article today.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/greater-western-sydney-giants-play-down-talk-of-divisions-20150914-gjmhj7.html

[Jonesracing82]

Treloar is not a done deal to Pies, we can get it done via a better trade with GWS! they'd be stupid not to get the most they can for him

Seems to be what all the talk is about.
Collingwood is offering 2015 First and Witts.
Richmond are offering 2015 AND 2016 First.
Allen (ex-Collingwood) accepted the Collingwood offer, getting Treloar to commit to Collingwood, until Gale questioned Matthews as to why GWS took a lesser offer since Witts is really no use to GWS with Mumford and Downie ahead of him. Matthews has obviously thought there is validity to Gale's point and now there's a big blue at GWS between Allen and Matthews over whose interests Allen is really looking after first. As said we're still in this because ALL parties have to agree and any MOU Treloar may have signed to Collingwood also relies on GWS agreeing to the trade.

Witts has reportedly refused to be traded there & is contracted at Collingwood & has the right to stay.
surely GWS need to look at the best offer for them & B.Gale will be mentioning this to them no doubt.

[WilliamPowell]

Treloar is not a done deal to Pies, we can get it done via a better trade with GWS! they'd be stupid not to get the most they can for him

Seems to be what all the talk is about.
Collingwood is offering 2015 First and Witts.
Richmond are offering 2015 AND 2016 First.
Allen (ex-Collingwood) accepted the Collingwood offer, getting Treloar to commit to Collingwood, until Gale questioned Matthews as to why GWS took a lesser offer since Witts is really no use to GWS with Mumford and Downie ahead of him. Matthews has obviously thought there is validity to Gale's point and now there's a big blue at GWS between Allen and Matthews over whose interests Allen is really looking after first. As said we're still in this because ALL parties have to agree and any MOU Treloar may have signed to Collingwood also relies on GWS agreeing to the trade.

One would hope Treloar hasn't signed a thing because he isn't allowed too. Not even a MOU.

[Owl]

I was wondering why this stank so bad, truth will always come out eventually.  Collingwood were just bagging too many decent fish for sweet FA the last few years.  This one was one too many.

[Dougeytherichmondfan]

Treloar is not a done deal to Pies, we can get it done via a better trade with GWS! they'd be stupid not to get the most they can for him

Seems to be what all the talk is about.
Collingwood is offering 2015 First and Witts.
Richmond are offering 2015 AND 2016 First.
Allen (ex-Collingwood) accepted the Collingwood offer, getting Treloar to commit to Collingwood, until Gale questioned Matthews as to why GWS took a lesser offer since Witts is really no use to GWS with Mumford and Downie ahead of him. Matthews has obviously thought there is validity to Gale's point and now there's a big blue at GWS between Allen and Matthews over whose interests Allen is really looking after first. As said we're still in this because ALL parties have to agree and any MOU Treloar may have signed to Collingwood also relies on GWS agreeing to the trade.

One would hope Treloar hasn't signed a thing because he isn't allowed too. Not even a MOU.

Great work from Gale here to call them out. GWS clearly want to trade with us. Time for our off field department to show the boys how to win a big crunch conflict and get this done. Hopefully Treloar was on a bender when we played on Sunday...

[Hard Roar Tiger]

There's hope.

[Owl]

wonder if there will be an AFL look into this, seems a bit corrupt, oh wait...the AFL...stock in trade lol

[Stalin]

wonder if there will be an AFL look into this, seems a bit corrupt, oh wait...the AFL...stock in trade lol

how are the afl integrity department tossers going

[one-eyed]

From Caro's article tonight:

The massive six-year offer put forward to Treloar has been placed at about $750,000 a season. Although both clubs refused to reveal the potential details of the agreement between Collingwood and GWS, the AFL has maintained a close watch on the forthcoming trade, which raised the ire of Richmond.

The AFL has denied its enhanced investigation capacities achieved in-house were put to clubs following reports of the Treloar deal with Collingwood.

"It's pretty simple," club president Eddie McGuire told Fairfax Media. "The kid wants to come to Collingwood."

McGuire scoffed at industry scuttlebutt, which  reached the highest levels of AFL headquarters, that he had offered Treloar's partner, Kelsey, a position with McGuire Media.

"If that was what she wanted and we had arranged it, it would have gone to Ken Wood and been ticked off under the TPP," said McGuire. "But it's categorically wrong. It's not happening, never was. I can't even get Dane Swan to do a spot on my radio show for $150 without it being queried."

The Tigers offered the Giants two first-round draft picks for Treloar and believed that Richmond was his club of preference. List manager Blair Hartley has remained in contact with the talented young midfielder while the issue was taken to the chief executive level when Brendon Gale contacted Dave Matthews to query the GWS rebuff.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/collingwood-out-of-race-for-matthew-kreuzer-20150915-gjngh7.html

[Stalin]

scum

[Francois Jackson]

Didn't gale play with Leon Cameron

I find it hard that Cameron has no input into any of this. He should be filthy if this is true.

[Jonesracing82]

there is definitely something going on here.....

[one-eyed]

AFL warns clubs on shady deals

  Michael Gleeson, Jake Niall
     The Age
    September 16, 2015 - 7:48PM

The AFL has written to all clubs warning them about salary cap rorts and under-the-table deals on the eve of the trading season.

The league has put all clubs on notice that they will be scrutinised over a range of issues that could be an abuse of the player trading system or the salary cap.

Ken Wood, the AFL official responsible for policing player payments, wrote to all clubs and player agents this week about side deals for players and their families.

The warning comes while several high-profile players, including free agents Patrick Dangerfield, Matthew Leuenberger and departing Bomber Jake Carlisle, are being pursued by a range of clubs in what is expected to be an extremely busy post-season.

The warning about possible breaches if a club or an affiliate of the club employed a player or his family member came as Eddie McGuire was moved to deny rumours that he had agreed to hire the girlfriend of departing Greater Western Sydney player Adam Treloar, who wants a trade to Collingwood.

In a memo marked "urgent", Wood said clubs or club affiliates could hire players or their family members or associates but the AFL had to be informed.

He said if any payment was considered to in any way relate to a player joining a club or refusing to join another club then it would be deemed a football payment to the player and included under the salary cap.

The warnings came from the man policing the salary cap. The AFL's integrity department can also investigate matters that aren't related to player payments.

Wood warned that all agreements with players or their associates needed to be declared.

"Put simply, this means that all agreements with a player must be "on the table" and disclosed in full to the AFL. This includes all details of payments and all contractual terms whether informal or formal," Wood wrote.

He gave an example of a player made a two-year contract offer with the promise of a further two years after that. He said the promised extra two years also needed to be declared.

Wood also wrote that free agency exchanges needed to be in isolation and could not be tied to any other trade between clubs.

Clubs were reminded they could  enter agreements with players from other clubs only after that player's club had played their last game for the season or final or in the case of free agents only in the free agency period.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-warns-clubs-on-shady-deals-20150916-gjoao5.html

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Impossible to police post career deals. In other words, Eddie (or rich sponsor) could offer employment post football career verbally with the players manager/solicitor present which then becomes a binding verbal contract. There is no record for the AFL to see. Nothing for them to investigate. Deal done. The only clue is that the player went for the seemingly worse deal because the "really want to play for Collingwood".........

[Dougeytherichmondfan]

Impossible to police post career deals. In other words, Eddie (or rich sponsor) could offer employment post football career verbally with the players manager/solicitor present which then becomes a binding verbal contract. There is no record for the AFL to see. Nothing for them to investigate. Deal done. The only clue is that the player went for the seemingly worse deal because the "really want to play for Collingwood".........

If a lawyer was present then you have a witness.