Adam Goodes Booing

[Hard Roar Tiger]

I've never booed anyone at the football.
I've always found it a little puerile as an expression but I don't have an issue unless Richmond supporters boo their own players.
That view aside, it's a part of the game and is generally set aside for umpires, poor performing teams, acts of violence on the field & players who have reputations as being tools or cheats.

Which brings me to Adam Goodes.

One of my favourite players so far this century (the prelim final vs Saints, the gf against Wce which nearly won them back to back and routine tearing richmond a new one as examples) he's had as big an impact as most.

In the last couple of years, I've become annoyed at his free kick staging and his persecution based opinion of others which is ironic.
There's always a balance between recognising the past and moving forward together - I'm not sure he gets the balance right.

But that's his view, his entitled to it and I'm certainly not going to boo him for it.
Equally I respect the rights of football fans for booing him for his tool like behaviour - be it his on field antics or off field. You put yourself out there - expect feedback.

What I find incredible is the way the football community are almost implying that there is a racist undertone behind the booing. 70 indigenous players in the competition, why is Goodes being booed over them? Plenty of indigenous players before him - Long, Winmar, D Rioli etc never booed for standing up for themselves or their rights - never booed?

Perhaps people think Goodes is a tool and has earnt the right to be booed - like a Ballentyne at the Dockers.
His inability to deal with it (by ignoring it) has made it worse and the football communities paranoia about it had actually made it worse.
There's probably a few racists in the crowd booing Goodes, I'd imagine there are plenty more, far,far more who aren't and are now booing at the insinuation that they are.

[🏅Dooks]

People have always booed or expressed their verbal disapproval at the footy for a number of reasons. Sniping, staging,  cheating etc etc. If anything crowd behaviour has improved 10 fold since the 70s. Now you get families women and kids to the footy whereas 35 years ago it was 75% men, half of which had a skin full.

If it was not possible people were booing him for any other reason other than race then you'd worry and the proof would be there. But he is a proven repeated stager and in many people's opinions, a rubbish bloke. Not alot different to Harvey. I don't think it's likely its race based.

Its possible some people booing him are doing it on race I guess, however, assuming and accusing someone's verbal expression and motives are based on race without substantial proof or probability is as dangerous as racism itself, and the media commentators tread this fine line often when they make a statements on the issue.

In deciding to vent at a player, I couldn't care less what their ethnicity or background is as it doesn't come into play as a factor.

[cub]

Booooooooooooo

[dwaino]

Boourns.

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I've never booed anyone at the football.
I've always found it a little puerile as an expression but I don't have an issue unless Richmond supporters boo their own players.
That view aside, it's a part of the game and is generally set aside for umpires, poor performing teams, acts of violence on the field & players who have reputations as being tools or cheats.

Which brings me to Adam Goodes.

One of my favourite players so far this century (the prelim final vs Saints, the gf against Wce which nearly won them back to back and routine tearing richmond a new one as examples) he's had as big an impact as most.

In the last couple of years, I've become annoyed at his free kick staging and his persecution based opinion of others which is ironic.
There's always a balance between recognising the past and moving forward together - I'm not sure he gets the balance right.

But that's his view, his entitled to it and I'm certainly not going to boo him for it.
Equally I respect the rights of football fans for booing him for his tool like behaviour - be it his on field antics or off field. You put yourself out there - expect feedback.

What I find incredible is the way the football community are almost implying that there is a racist undertone behind the booing. 70 indigenous players in the competition, why is Goodes being booed over them? Plenty of indigenous players before him - Long, Winmar, D Rioli etc never booed for standing up for themselves or their rights - never booed?

Perhaps people think Goodes is a tool and has earnt the right to be booed - like a Ballentyne at the Dockers.
His inability to deal with it (by ignoring it) has made it worse and the football communities paranoia about it had actually made it worse.
There's probably a few racists in the crowd booing Goodes, I'd imagine there are plenty more, far,far more who aren't and are now booing at the insinuation that they are.

So, what you're saying is, although you don't boo, you don't mind that he's booed now because he's a idiot.

We agree.

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Thinks he's bigger than the game

[🏅Dooks]

Thinks he's bigger than the game

He's precious and a narcissist.

[Smokey]

Thinks he's bigger than the game

He's precious and a narcissist.

And a racist.

[WilliamPowell]

The "boos" IMHO have more to do with how he plays the games than anything else. Yep there are probably people who boo him for racial reasons but the IMHO for the majority it has nothing to do with it

The diving and staging for frees, the sooking on and off the field, the trying to justify the diving and staging have tuned people off. Even when he won his Brownlow I've always hated the way he stages, never been a fan

That's not raced based it's simply about the way someone plays the game. It's not the right way, it's poor sportsmanship.

But it's easier to make it racial than for people to actually call this bloke out on his poor sportsmanship and they way he tarnishes the game. Only person who seems to constantly make it racial is Goodes himself

Just my take

[Gigantor]

I don't like the way Goodes plays the game,i think he spends way too much time trying to enlist the aide of umpires or put one over them.Howwever I get the feeling that a lot of the booing has a malice in it that I haven't seen directed at other players.

[Smokey]

That's not raced based it's simply about the way someone plays the game. It's not the right way, it's poor sportsmanship.

But it's easier to make it racial than for people to actually call this bloke out on his poor sportsmanship and they way he tarnishes the game.

I disagree that it's easier to make it racial WP - Goodes made it racial with his unfair, over the top and unrepentant reaction to the young Collingwood supporter, he made it racial with his divisive and very ill-timed remarks at his Australian Of The Year acceptance speech and he made it racial with his unprovoked, egotistical and pointless war dance directed at opposition fans in a game from a round promoted with an aim and theme of acknowledgement, acceptance and tolerance of each other.  He was raised by a single mother (which so many of us are regardless of race) who lived in a white middle class environment and was subjected to little or none of the so-called prejudices he claims to be so deeply affected by.  He is a grand-standing grub who I have zero respect for, as a person or sportsman.

[Gigantor]

Smokey do you know for fact that he wasn't subjected to the so called prejudices you refer to?..if what you say is true then  his personal accounts ring hollow

[WilliamPowell]

That's not raced based it's simply about the way someone plays the game. It's not the right way, it's poor sportsmanship.

But it's easier to make it racial than for people to actually call this bloke out on his poor sportsmanship and they way he tarnishes the game.

I disagree that it's easier to make it racial WP - Goodes made it racial with his unfair, over the top and unrepentant reaction to the young Collingwood supporter, he made it racial with his divisive and very ill-timed remarks at his Australian Of The Year acceptance speech and he made it racial with his unprovoked, egotistical and pointless war dance directed at opposition fans in a game from a round promoted with an aim and theme of acknowledgement, acceptance and tolerance of each other.  He was raised by a single mother (which so many of us are regardless of race) who lived in a white middle class environment and was subjected to little or none of the so-called prejudices he claims to be so deeply affected by.  He is a grand-standing grub who I have zero respect for, as a person or sportsman.

Maybe I didn't explain myself very well Smokey.

But when I say it's easier to make it racial, I meant it is easier for the media to make the booing a racial issue rather than actually looking deeper and actually acknowledging that it is in a lot cases it's not about race but about footy fans having zero respect for the way the bloke goes about playing the game

[Smokey]

No probs WP, that makes your point clearer to me.  And I agree 100%!

[Penelope]

the irony of all this is it seems that we are not able to form an opinion on Goodes based on how we view him as a person, but on the color of his skin.

because he is black, we cannot dislike him, without being labelled as racist, by some.